[ SECRET POST #2185 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2185 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Except he never "decided he didn't like it" before. He was perfectly fine with it when he regenerated into Ten from Nine. And all the previous times he regenerated, he was also fine. He'd gripe about how his ears were too big and his predecessor's dress sense was crap and how he looked weird and thought weird and felt weird and his teeth are weird and geez, look at that hair, why do I have such bad hair? but he never "didn't like it". It's a natural part of being a Time Lord. All Time Lords do it. He did it. He remembers it, and he's still basically the same person (yes, RTD's "new man walks off with my memories" thing was a completely unsupported asspull that had never happened before) It's not like it was some unique curse that was foisted on him.

I should also not that, as much as I hated Ten's regeneration concept, I though the regeneration was handled very nicely. "oh no oh no this is going to be terrible oh god I don't want to go what if this all is a huge disaster what if something really horrible happens -- wait. Legs! I've still got legs! And sure, my chin's too big and my hair's too long and I'm crash landing, but I've had worse noses! This is just fine! What was I complaining about?" It was like, a nice little gentle, respectful way to defuse Ten's angst without making him look bad, making it seem more like he just was having a really bad time and some really bad anxiety problems at the moment that now all seem a little silly in hindsight, but not bad in any way.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

It's a natural part of being a Time Lord. All Time Lords do it. He did it. He remembers it, and he's still basically the same person (yes, RTD's "new man walks off with my memories" thing was a completely unsupported asspull that had never happened before) It's not like it was some unique curse that was foisted on him.

And yet humans are allowed to rage against natural parts of their being all the time, things that are pretty inconsequential compared to your whole body changing in an agonizing way. To just throw out 'it's a part of him. It's natural. He should be OK with it.' isn't fair at all to the individuality of each incarnation. If they all have to feel the exact same about every part of being the Doctor, what's the point of even making him regenerate? Having an incarnation that wants to just say 'fuck regeneration!' makes the Doctor more interesting, IMO. And like you said, having Eleven be so happy to be alive was a great foil. It doesn't diminish Ten's fear at all because it was still an unknown until it had already happened and by then he really was gone. So his fear was both founded (from an individual incarnation perspective) and unfounded (from a regenerating Doctor perspective).

[intrigueing]

I agree with this...in theory. On paper, I think the idea is unique and cool. I just really didn't like how it was executed -- so over-the-top, so melodramatic, so in-your-face, harped on so frequently, having him not really acknowledge or discuss the fact that his reaction this time WAS different from how he reacted all the other times, or explore WHY he was reacting differently. It's something that only makes sense if you really delve into it and analyze it using material that wasn't even in the episode, and the actually explicit parts of the episode never, ever brought the stuff you talked about up.

So I guess what I'm saying is...from an in-universe perspective, the regeneration was fine. But from an out-of-universe aesthetic perspective of someone watching the episode for the first time, it was really, really irritating, frustrating, and all-around badly written.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

I just really didn't like how it was executed -- so over-the-top, so melodramatic, so in-your-face, harped on so frequently,

I definitely agree with this. It was tiring and melodramatic. But I think the people who are like 'HE SHOULD JUST BE OK WITH IT! HE'S DONE IT BEFORE!' are missing out on how his unique feelings make him a more interesting character.