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fandomsecrets2012-12-27 06:47 pm
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(Anonymous) 2012-12-28 05:13 am (UTC)(link)Way to avoid proving your point.
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(Anonymous) 2012-12-28 01:23 am (UTC)(link)my folks threatening to revoke internet or comp access /take away the nintendo DS for the day worked fairly well on me and my sister. I avoid getting into trouble because losing my comp even for a day scares me just as much as the threat of pain. because I got shit to do and the neighborhood has become as boring as hell by now. also taking away my music does the same. I actually bought my own cell phone just so they wouldn't be able to take it away. It worked when they did though because I started losing it less and less.
taking away a privilege is very effective.
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(Anonymous) 2012-12-28 03:48 am (UTC)(link)I'm not saying I can't do it, just that it's something I always dreaded because it was a pain all around. Not fun. Nowadays I have a voice recorder so its a little better. and I rarely get restricted from my comp completely anyways so ehh. my point was that taking away priveleges is an option that can work. It's mostly what my folks now use anyways. I don't think I was spanked at all eleven onwards,
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But it doesn't work immediately. It's sort of like, well, training a dog. They have to learn that if they deliberately disobey their parent, there will be consequences. And it has to be consistent. But it takes time and can often wind up inconveniencing the family ("Stop that or we're going home" means you'd better be prepared to haul out of wherever you are and go straight home if "that" happens again).
It requires a lot of effort, which is why it doesn't get used so much. And as I said, it's not immediate. And sometimes, you need a little immediacy.
I got a handful of swats as a child, maybe a belt once or twice (and in retrospect, it was never, y'know, a full-armed swing meant to hurt or leave marks. It was always less about hurting a kid and more about, well, punishing them). I don't think it's a terrible, awful thing, but it's one of those things that's so hard to regulate and judge. "I didn't hit him that hard" means different things to a 30-year-old man and a 4-year-old child. The biggest thing, I think, is if it's something a parent does, they absolutely never should do it while they're angry.
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As an adult, as I said, I wouldn't be upset at the idea of a swat on the behind (so long as the parent did it when they weren't angry), but belt is something that I would say goes too far and is just unnecessary, unless you're going for scariness. Which you shouldn't.
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That's a HUGE part of the reason I'm against all this. Spanking a kid who just tried to run into the street is an effective way to teach them "THIS IS BAD, NEVER DO IT" and for dangerous activities, that's a good thing. However, for other situations that aren't as immediately dire, threatening your kid with physical punishment if they don't do what you want - ESPECIALLY if that punishment has a tangible object associated with it, like a belt - just generates an environment of fear for the kid. Humans naturally recoil from pain. It's not the same as the threat of grounding, writing sentences*, or being given extra chores, all of which my mother employed on me many a time. None of those things generate the basic, instinctual fear response associated with physical pain that corporal punishment does when used routinely. By extension, that can erode the trust between a child and parent. The line between discipline and abuse is veeeery thin when that discipline is physical.
*I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this one so far haha. It's akin to the old-fashioned "writing lines on a chalkboard" thing that never actually happened to me at school, probably because it's not really practical. I got sentences a lot though. My mom would write a line on a piece of lined paper - "I will not talk back to my parents", for example - and make me copy it 25 times (or 50, or 100, depending on how severe the infringement was). I haaaated it. It was definitely a good deterrent.
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