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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-29 02:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2188 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2188 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-29 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair to Tolkien, he's very up-front that it's possible for any of the "good" races to become corrupt and evil - Saruman is evil despite being a wizard, there's tons of evil humans, Gandalf and Galadriel acknowledge the temptation of the Ring, in other words of evil, Gollum starts off as basically a hobbit before the corrupting influence of the Ring takes hold, and even Frodo falls to the Ring at the end. That doesn't mean that Tolkien's treatment of some of the forces of evil - particularly the Southrons - isn't somewhat problematic, but it's miles away from the always-chaotic-evil Redwall thing.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2012-12-30 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I want to say that for the Southrons, they get one brief humanizing moment through Sam's eyes, where he realizes that they are, in fact, just people who are far from home, even if they're fighting for Sauron.

The Orcs, IIRC, are broken elves? Or descended from them? It's less like "always evil race" and more like, I dunno, the idea that, well, pit bulls are sweet, sweet puppies, but if someone bred pit bulls in terrible conditions, always breeding for the worst/most aggressive traits and treated them horribly to boot, after a few generations, you'd have a savage subsection of the breed beyond rehabilitation.

Or I guess like those Russian foxes (and those aren't even mistreated).