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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-29 02:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2188 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2188 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-29 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't tell if this is a semantic thing. Yeah, they are relationships of a romantic or sexual nature, in that they are boyfriend/girlfriend (eventually husband/wife) relationships. No one would argue that, I think. Doesn't mean that they are romantic in the sense of idealized, sweet, or loving. There's a difference. The relationships are both messed up and at least somewhat abusive. So... yeah, lots of people apparently find that awesome, partly because a lot of women are told that's just how men express their emotions and true love. That doesn't mean other people can't find that problematic, when it's held up as an ideal.

I'm not enlightened about relationships and I wouldn't pretend be. I don't think people who enjoyed the books are broken or stupid. I don't think you need to cross-examine what you're reading. I do think that if you see the relationships as perfect and desire a similar relationship in real life, and you do so uncritically, that's a reflection of a problematic conception of gender relations and sexual/romantic relationships. Problematic on a general, but not a specific scale-- if that is the particular kind of relationship you want, and you're totally into people who are controlling, possessive, and angry, then have at it-- your relationship is not mine. But if you fail to see that those relationships are frequently abusive? Sorry, I do find that problematic.

da

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a good comment.