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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-29 02:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2188 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
My mother is in her 70s now and was one of the original feminists back when NOW was just getting started, and she was an activist too. She just shakes her head at a lot of what people try to pass as "feminism" these days because it runs so counter to what she and the other older women originally fought for. It's fascinating to listen to her stories, really.
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[personal profile] thene 2012-12-30 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
omg anon you can tell your mom THANK YOU from me, every day.

I worry about how much activist experience has been lost due to the experienced people getting jettisoned or sidelined. Activists can't learn from our mistakes, or our victories, if we've lost the people who were there when they happened.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
This. The status quo has a vested interest in being able to teach our own history to us, with the most radical parts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstrual_extraction) edited out. They can only do that as long as activists from different generations don't talk to each other.

Perennially re-defining all the terms and convincing people that anyone who doesn't use the right ones is *doing actual harm* seems to be working rather well. And when did university go from being a place where people hammered out what they wanted and how they should change the world ... to being a place where "women's studies," "minority studies," and "LGBT studies" hand down what eminent theorists in the subject are saying and thinking this year?
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[personal profile] kittenmommy 2012-12-31 03:38 am (UTC)(link)

I worry about how much activist experience has been lost due to the experienced people getting jettisoned or sidelined.

But they're OMG OLD! Only the young people know everything and can therefore save the world!!!

I've been saying for years now that I'd love to be a teenager again, because then I'd know everything and have all the answers! :p

(Anonymous) 2012-12-30 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
I think some of the changes are reasonable progression. One of the most interesting feminism discussion I had was with a radical feminist who did her university in 1960s. It was fascinating, because I know in the end we will not agree with one another, but knowing the context of why certain ideas were the most progressive at the time made lots of sense. It is about understanding people, and what we can do together to make the world a better place. Trying to shout down any disagreements is the exact opposite of that.