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⌈ Secret Post #2188 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I can totally understand that, although it's a sad state of affairs. I've personally developed the habit of using queer in some spaces if I'm not sure how saying I'm bisexual will be received.

[(Anonymous)]

Funny thing about queer is that it and of itself is a word with all SORTS of baggage.

Yes, it's been reclaimed for the gender and orientation contexts. But, honestly, as far as implications I feel like queer has a heck of a lot more negative ones than bisexual.

I am genderqueer. However, I wince to call myself that because in my mental lexicon "queer" = abnormal.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I totally agree that there are a lot of negative connotations to queer. It took me quite awhile to feel comfortable using it, and I still have moments where it kind of makes me cringe. I do think that it has its uses, especially when it comes to being more inclusive when talking about things on a community-level and not having to type out a billion-letter acronym (and still worry that you're forgetting letters). But it also makes sense why some people don't want to use it, since it's not really a one-to-one correlation with being lesbian, gay, bi, trans, etc., and it does sort of lump everyone together as being the same in the name of solidarity, when really different parts of the community have really different experiences. There are also some political undertones to the term itself, along with the inherently negative implications that you pointed out, so I think it makes sense that it makes some people (and even some people who use it in certain contexts) uncomfortable.

On the personal front, I tend to find myself using it in spaces that are less familiar to me, or where I've gotten some sort of indication that I'll get some flack for saying I'm bi. If I say queer, most people aren't going to ask me to specify further and then give me the side-eye for being bi and therefore not queer enough or assume that I'm just experimenting or haven't found myself. I've found that the types of spaces where I'm most likely to encounter that kind of crap about being bi are also the types of spaces where I'm not going to get shit over using queer. Which honestly probably says a lot about different parts of the community and the role of language within them. Queer's not a term that I feel totally uncomfortable using to describe myself or anything, and I do think that it works well when you're talking about things at a broader level, but I think I would just use bi everywhere if I hadn't gotten crap over it in the past. It would be really nice if people would just learn to accept the labels that people use for themselves (or not use) and not worry so much about categorizing and sub-categorizing and fitting other people into a neat little box.

(Just out of curiosity, are there any other terms out there like genderqueer that don't use "queer"? I can see why it would be kind of awkward if you hated the word and the implications behind it, but didn't have a lot of other options. Or at least options that people will understand without a lengthy explanation.)

Re: AYRT

[thene]

where I've gotten some sort of indication that I'll get some flack for saying I'm bi

Yeah I love being in ~inclusive, radical, non-oppressive~ spaces where biphobia is totally expected and condoned. :( It DOES say a lot about the community, doesn't it?

re. words other than genderqueer - I have a friend who identifies as an androgyne - I've also heard agender and neutrois fairly regularly.