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⌈ Secret Post #2188 ⌋

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[insanenoodlyguy]

See now, and please correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding up untill this whole thing was that a bisexual likes men and women, whereas a pansexual wasn't necessarily into just the traditional male and female gender binarys, and might show interest in those identifying and presenting as in more androgynous or genderqueer ways as well?

[elialshadowpine]

Well, that goes into what someone above pointed out -- that most of us who IDed as bisexual earlier than the past 5yrs or so didn't use the term bisexual with any real meaning of an implied gender binary. And the mainstream still doesn't, for the most part. So on stuff like Facebook or such, where I'm dealing with short little posts and don't necessarily want to get into a long explanation of what pansexual means (as one example), yeah, I will use bisexual even if it isn't 100% accurate.

In more queer aware areas, I use pansexual as I feel it more accurate (considering, lord, at least half of the people I have ever been involved with are trans or genderqueer). Just in some situations, being absolutely correct is less important than convenience.

[insanenoodlyguy]

So what, if anything, would distinguish those people who have that sort of attraction to the binary? Or is that where these emergent problems come from? That there is no longer a distinct term?

Edit: Oh and thank you for answering

[(Anonymous)]

It's the other way around. Bisexual used the be the catch-all term for anyone who was somewhere between gay and straight on the sexuality spectrum. there was really no need to have a special term for those who prefer only the binary like there is no special term for bisexuals who mostly prefer people of the same gender but not always.

The tendency to over-pigeonhole people is also fairly recent.

[elialshadowpine]

I'm not sure there's ever been a term that's totally distinct. People within the last handful of years may use bisexual to mean strictly within the binary, but I've honestly not run into that too much. (Like I can probably count the number of times on one hand that I have seen somebody say they used it specifically for that purpose.) I have run more into people who continue to use it because that is what they have always used, or that it's a more understood term in the mainstream.

It is more that people who use pansexual want to be specific, or, as others mentioned, sidestep the baggage that comes with the term bisexual. Somebody said very astutely that pansexual is not without baggage, it just has different baggage. (I have personally had very, very different responses from people within communities for queer women if I refer to myself as bisexual vs pansexual. If I never ever hear another "barsexual" comment it will be too soon.)