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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-30 06:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2189 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2189 ⌋

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Re: DA

[personal profile] ellie_oops 2012-12-31 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I have heard of cases where two children who were adopted out fell in love as adults. It wasn't intentional thou, they didn't know they were related. If I recall once they found out they were related, they broke up and probably went into therapy.

What I am basically arguing is that I am uncomfortable that some people are justifying abuse by putting it under the "fantasy" category. Anyone who fantasizes about molesting a child would never be praised the way the OP is. Making consent head canon does not make it okay either No, sorry, wrong, incest does not have consent, and if consent is given it is always through manipulation.

The OP is basically admitting to masturbating to a fantasy he has of a fucked up time in my (and other victims) lives. That is no fantasy, that is hell, that is abuse, and I question the person who gets off on abuse. I find it sickening that so many people are okay with it and are encouraging him. That is not okay, and no amount of semantic or head canon twisting will ever make it okay.

If you want to argue some more that "consenting incest" exists, do it with the other people who have no problem with it. I do not want to be told that I am being stupid, or what happened to me didn't matter because some people here have no boundries or respect for victims.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2012-12-31 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No one is saying what happened to you doesn't matter. It clearly does.

That doesn't mean what happened to you is exactly what happened to everyone else and it certainly has nothing to do with fantasy and OP doesn't seem to confuse the two or fetishize real incest.

I certainly have my share of fantasies about things I would never want to do or have happen to me in real life -- it makes me sick to thing of them realistically. I can't fully explain why I get off on them but I have noticed that sometimes people develop sexual issues surrounding things they fear so I'm pretty uncomfortable with your black and white view on other people's sexualities.
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Re: DA

[personal profile] ellie_oops 2012-12-31 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Listen, like I said above, if you want to talk about how much you like fantasizing about abuse, do it with someone else. I have no interest in hearing you or anyone else try to justify this. Yes, it is a black and white issue, and again, like I said above, no amount of mental gymnastics will change that.

Now go justify your abuse fantasies with someone else.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2013-01-01 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just going to give you the benefit of doubt here and assume this is one of those things you will never see clearly and not take your comments personally. I'm very sorry you've suffered and wish you luck in healing.