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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-31 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2190 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2190 ⌋

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(Might be triggery for sexual abuse and sexism?)

[personal profile] brightblueink 2013-01-01 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
The first one that comes to mind for me is Ouran High School Host Club. Overall the characters that are crossdressers or gay are seen in a sympathetic light, but Haruhi (who wears a boy's uniform and pretends to be a boy when in the "host club") gets a lot of lectures (mostly from Tamaki) about how she should act more feminine and wear cuter clothing, etc etc.

The worst episode is when she tries to defend some girls that are being harassed by some guys on a beach. When she does, they push her off a cliff into the surf and Tamaki has to dive in after her to save her. The rest of the episode, the other members of the host club (all guys) more or less get after her for "acting like a guy" and trying to defend the girls herself instead of going to get help from one of them. She eventually "learns her lesson" when she stumbles upon one of the host club members in their room when they're half-dressed after taking a shower...and he grabs her and throws her onto the bed underneath him. She decides that he's doing that to convince her that as a woman, she's still at risk for being assaulted and that she should be careful, but based on his reaction it's not 100% clear on if he was trying to do that, or if he was actually just giving in to lust. If you're in the US or Canada, you can see the whole episode here.

There's actually a lot of moments in the series where they're much better about this sort of thing (for example, Haruhi's Dad works as a crossdressing hostess at a bar, and in general he's portrayed as a loving, devoted father who just happens to be more comfortable in women's clothing), but there's still moments like that in the show where it's a little...eehhhh.

Re: (Might be triggery for sexual abuse and sexism?)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-01 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was pretty clear that whatshisface wasn't really lustful at all? Still skeevy as hell though. Ouran had some big problems.
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Re: (Might be triggery for sexual abuse and sexism?)

[personal profile] brightblueink 2013-01-01 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I thought that at first...and it might be. But it's still not made really clear. and even if he was just proving a point...he was doing it by more or less sexually assaulting her so I still feel like it's not really something that should be defended. (And unfortunately the people in the comments of that video are defending it.)

Re: (Might be triggery for sexual abuse and sexism?)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-01 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I was disappointed with Ouran. I really liked how Haruhi comes right out and says her gender is just not a big deal to her, because that's how I feel personally and it's so rare to encounter in fiction. But then...yeah. The execution tries, and could be worse, but it's not great.

Re: (Might be triggery for sexual abuse and sexism?)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-02 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that episode was a big WTF in an otherwise decent series. With the exception of that episode I always felt like the viewer was suppose to be on Haruhi's side with 'what's the big deal? I can dress how I want,' considering how ridiculous and over-dramatic the rest of the club was.