[ SECRET POST #2191 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2191 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry. I should have prefaced that by saying I was a different anon. I am the same anon who mentioned the AO3 stats, though.

I wouldn't say that fics are the only way to say how dominant slash/het is in a fandom. And I'm willing to factor in FF.net. But I'm saying it's part of a whole. When I go to TV Guide (or other similar sources), when I use LJ, when I use AO3, etc., Tony fans, particularly Tony/Gibbs fans are by far what I see. I used to help with the LJ fandom newsletter and the LJ fic awards, and Tiva was nowhere near the top of the fic heap. And was dwarfed in discussion. And was the only ship with a community bashing it. So, I'm willing to include FF.net in the analysis, but only as a part of it. Yes, it seems Tony/Ziva is more popular there, but I posit that slash is more popular everywhere else. Making me feel that slash is very much the dominant mindset in that fandom.

I'm not going to comment on the point as a whole. As I know several slash-based, het-based, and even a few femslash-based fandoms. However, from everything I've seen, I would definitely put NCIS in the slash-based fandoms. YMMV, as it seems it does.

[(Anonymous)]

My apologies - I did assume you were the same anon from earlier in the thread. I agree that fics aren't the only way to tell. But there are a lot of different spaces in fandom. And sometimes if you spend a lot of time in one type of space, it's easy to lose perspective. When I was in SGA fandom I spent a lot of time on both Gateworld and LJ. And it was amazing the differences in perspectives. There really were people on Gateworld who would not believe me when I tried to explain that McShep was the dominant ship (by quite a bit) in SGA. And every once in a while I ran into people on LJ that were honestly shocked when they happened to discover that Sheppard/Weir was actually the major het ship in the fandom instead of a rare pairing.

I don't know about TVGuide so much. I think you're right that there may be more of an anti-Tiva sentiment there. My major entertainment source though is TVLine, and the Tiva shippers are huge there.