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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-02 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2192 ]


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Tumblr, Question for you, F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
There has been a diagram of a woman's sexual organs (Basically the vaginal opening, the clitoris, the glands/muscles/etc that make up the area) it was interesting...until it devolved into a rant about how the OP was transphobic for calling it "female genitalia". I don't know where I stand on this. Yes a trans!woman would not have the same parts, but it seems so silly and convoluted to not call it what it is. When a person is born a woman these are the parts she has. I don't see how this negates trans!women personally.

What are your thoughts on this, F!S?

Re: Tumblr, Question for you, F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Just because it's female genitalia doesn't mean all female's have that genitalia. It does not negate trans-ladies at all.

Tumblr is being dumb again.
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Re: Tumblr, Question for you, F!S

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-01-03 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
I could have sworn that female/male was sex and woman/man was gender. And trans people are born one sex but have a different gender. So it would be wrong to call it a woman's genitalia because not all women have that but since female specifically refers to the body it should be correct.

Unless all I've been learning currently about trans people is bullshit.

But yeah, they're actually being a complete idiot according to what I know about sex/gender/trans labeling stuff.

Now I kinda wanna know if I learned this wrong.

Re: Tumblr, Question for you, F!S

(Anonymous) 2013-01-03 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
No, I think you have it right. It was labeled "female". A lot of the posts that cried 'transphobic' said it should just be labeled 'genitalia', because giving it a sex was phobic. or something like that. Personally I find that to be on the insane end of trying to be "PC".
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Re: Tumblr, Question for you, F!S

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-01-03 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
...yeah, that's just stupid. There needs to be some accuracy. This is a matter of proper biology, not anything else. A penis and a vagina are not interchangeable in that sense.
Edited 2013-01-03 05:31 (UTC)
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Re: Tumblr, Question for you, F!S

[personal profile] citrinesunset 2013-01-03 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's unreasonable.

I don't have any problem with people choosing to use gender-neutral words for reproductive parts. And sometimes it can make sense to avoid descriptors like "male" or "female" when describing body parts or healthcare, especially since people often connect sex and gender in ways that can be alienating for trans people.

But in this case, "female genitalia" is meant to specify that the diagram is of reproductive parts associated with the female sex, and it's probably the clearest way to do that. I don't see it as implying that only women can be born with those parts, and I hope most people can understand that terms like "female genitalia" and "male genitalia" can occasionally be generalizations, anyway. It's not a perfect term, but it gets the point across.