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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-03 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2193 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2193 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[GunnerKrigg Court]


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02.
[The Avengers]


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03.
[French & Saunders]


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04.
[X-Men/Marvel Universe]


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05.
[Tron: Uprising]


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06.
[Kagaku Ninjatai Gatchaman]


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07.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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08.
[The X-Files/Fox Mulder]


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09.
[Homestuck]


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10.
[True Grit]


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11.
[Saya no Uta]


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12.
[The Silmarillion]


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13.
[Homestuck]


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14.
[Supernatural]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 015 secrets from Secret Submission Post #313.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-01-04 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Eliciting unintentional reactions different from what was intended is a sign of crappy storytelling.

Nah.

A certain portion of the audience will always react differently than you intended - often exactly the opposite way. Quality of writing can only adjust those numbers so much.

I don't think many people will argue that Watchmen was crappily written, yet a significant portion of the readership disagreed with Moore's intended reading of Rorschach, and found him admirable, even actually likeable.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-01-04 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't mean that anything that causes anyone to have unintended reactions is automatically bad, I mean that when your intended message clearly failed to produce something in the range of the intended reaction in the vast majority of your readership, then either a) your ideas/logic, b) your writing, or c) your conception of who your target audience is and what they're capable of comprehending is off the mark.

c) technically still counts as flawed storytelling, because you're communicating ineffectively with your audience, but that brand of flawed storytelling tends to age very well.

And oh, yeah, sizable contingents who are morons don't count ;)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-04 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Bertolt Brecht had terrible problems with that. People kept sympathizing with characters who were supposed to be horrible illustrations of... whatever.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-04 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Another great example of this: Walter White on Breaking Bad. Brilliant show, but some people refuse so acknowledge his decent into villainy.