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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-03 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2193 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2193 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[GunnerKrigg Court]


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02.
[The Avengers]


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03.
[French & Saunders]


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04.
[X-Men/Marvel Universe]


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05.
[Tron: Uprising]


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06.
[Kagaku Ninjatai Gatchaman]


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07.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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08.
[The X-Files/Fox Mulder]


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09.
[Homestuck]


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10.
[True Grit]


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11.
[Saya no Uta]


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12.
[The Silmarillion]


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13.
[Homestuck]


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14.
[Supernatural]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 015 secrets from Secret Submission Post #313.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] avatarmn 2013-01-04 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Um. WTF? I'm sensing a little hostility.
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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-01-04 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
... yeah? It's astonishingly stupid to bring Coulson back to life, thus negating all meaning from his death.
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[personal profile] avatarmn 2013-01-04 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh. I thought you were calling ME stupid, for thinking... something. That he wasn't dead or that he was in the show.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2013-01-04 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
Depending on how it happens, it still doesn't "negate all meaning from his death."

Firstly, assuming that it is set post-Avengers, post-Coulson-Death, as opposed to pre-Avengers, or in another universe or whatever.

Unless it was an LMD that stepped in to face Loki, Coulson's death scene is still a powerful moment. It's still a moment where a mortal man, pushing fifty, walked into a room, well-aware that he was probably going to die, and politely took on a demigod with an untested BFG. He still got stabbed. He still got in the last word and the last shot after being stabbed in the chest.

Bringing someone back is cheap if it leads directly to sunshine and daisies. If it leads to More Conflict, then congrats--Add More Conflict is pretty much the primary recipe in story writing. And if Coulson shows up alive in the movies again? It will Add More Conflict. The Avengers already don't trust Fury, or even like SHIELD all that much. If Tony and Steve find out that Fury lied to them about something like that and played them with those cards and that speech, they will be pissed. Honestly, best bet is they find out right before/in the middle of a Crisis Moment, and it's what prompts them to just cut all ties with SHIELD right before some Really Big Bad hits. By the end of the movie, the Avengers have all learned to work together, in spite of their differences. But it was their conflict that drove the movie; so in the sequel, a lot of that conflict gets shifted onto the Shady Government Organization.

It still really doesn't "negate all meaning from his death" even if they don't go that route. Whether or not he comes back, that was a freaking sweet scene.
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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-01-04 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
Despite your lengthy and laborious thoughts on this subject, you are still wrong.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2013-01-04 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
Um. Alright then. Interesting point. Care to explain?


(Do you actually know what "laborious" means, or were you just looking for a longish word that started with L?")
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[personal profile] wauwy 2013-01-04 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
It was laborious to wade through. I'm telling you it was tl;dr. You're clearly a totally off-the-deep-end fangirl/boy and your randomly emphasized treatise made me cringe with its desperate sincerity.

You love this movie so you've convinced yourself anything Whedon does to it can't be wrong, with the result that you can't see anything objectively anymore. Which is that Whedon pussing out on Coulson's death would be lame as fuck, the end.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-04 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sensing some hostility. A little sick of hearing about the Avengers at this point, are you? :D