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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-05 02:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2195 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2195 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
So when you have a lesbian story you either have to address those issues - which is exhausting and dispiriting to keep sitting through - or pretend like they don't exist - which is unrealistic and makes the story ring false.

I once wrote a short story for class with a gay (male) couple that had nothing to do with the fact that they were gay. My roommate at the time gave me the idea because it is so rare that gay characters are ever treated as just being a part of life, and because it was short, there was no need (or room) to address anything about it. Cue some guy in class asking, "But why two gay guys?" BECAUSE WHY NOT, MOTHERUFCKER. At least the teacher backed me up on that one.

It still baffles me that we need some "reason" to have a gay couple or just a gay character. The stories I write now have gay characters (male and female) that just are. They exist, like anybody else in the world, and if there's no narrative reason to address their sexuality, then I'm not going to. I'm hoping more media catches on to this, because the only thing I've seen actually handle it like just another thing has been Teen Wolf.

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Bless this post! BLESS THIS POST!

I'd love to see more gay couples in fiction, where they are just there, and they have a plot and personality that, does not, fully revolve around their sexuality. As a gay man I fond those rare moments, so refreshing to read.

They exist, like anybody else in the world, and if there's no narrative reason to address their sexuality, then I'm not going to.

Yes please, please keep on with that. I'm doing the same with my writing as well.

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-06 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
This = awesome idea.
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[personal profile] maverickz3r0 2013-01-06 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Four for you, anon! You go, anon.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-06 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I seem to recall a big part of the reason why there hasn't been homosexuality in the Star Trek franchise being, at least in the hands of some producers, that they were afraid they wouldn't be able to get PAST the "why not?" stage. Supposedly there was supposed to be a same-sex couple in First Contact, but the writers backed out because they didn't want to be the focus to be one the couple rather than the characters.

Sad world we live in.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-01-06 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Checking Memory Alpha, no, Lt Hawk (the character in question) wasn't meant to be gay in the movie, and his partner (male or female) was never meant to appear. That was an innovation from a novel featuring his partner (I don't know if Hawk himself is supposed to have survived in those novels or not).
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[personal profile] diabolicalfiend 2013-01-06 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
No, he still died, but his partner went on to be badass security chief.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-01-06 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Too bad. Does he find someone new? (I'll be a lot more impressed if he does.)
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[personal profile] diabolicalfiend 2013-01-06 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
There's someone he's flirting with, but he's only just over it and it's not gotten very far.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-01-06 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, well, if it's set so soon after FC that he's still getting over Hawk, I can't really hold that against them, then. >_>
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[personal profile] deadtree 2013-01-06 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
agreed. Also, there was a randomly occurring (biracial!) lesbian couple on Person of Interest (one of the women was the "number of the week" who needed saving)... I don't think any special mention of their being lesbians was made at all. They were treated exactly the same way any other married couple would be treated on the show and that was that.
(Of course, I think about 80% of the comments I read on reviews of that episode were along the lines of "but why were they GAY?!")