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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-05 02:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2195 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2195 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, what you're describing is REALLY specific and not remotely a general description of all people who might get satisfaction out of something other than the universe-sightseeing part of traveling. I mean, it's kind of like describing wanting to have kids as being willing to endure constant cooking and cleaning and yelling and chauffeuring for the sake of someone else.

Also, lol @ you for thinking that people who enjoy making other people happy do it to get thanks. You sound even more sociopathic than in your first comment.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
me thinks you don't know what sociopathic means

also that describes perfectly the op of the secret, they explicitly said that they hate sightseeing, adventure, excitement, etc.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-05 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
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it's kind of like describing wanting to have kids as being willing to endure constant cooking and cleaning and yelling and chauffeuring for the sake of someone else

...it's not?
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-01-06 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
LOL

I had the same thought. I love my daughter and the little sprog I'm currently cooking, but um. Yes. Lots of enduring and denying of the self go along with parenthood.
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2013-01-06 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no getting out of that. *Is a parent as well*

But I can't help but think that the kids would not be the better for a parent who didn't really want kids for themselves, but was only having them in order to make someone else happy.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-01-06 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
We are in complete agreement on that. (Along with boggling at all those people who think having a kid will fix a relationship or heal problems they're having)
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2013-01-06 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
And they do! Holy cow, I've met people who had kids for the purposes of keeping their marriage together -- and of course, it broke the relationship apart even faster. Nothing stresses a relationship like needy, needy babies.

I mean, it's all well and good to think that you can live your life for someone else's pleasure, and just live off the altruistic good-feel, but it gets to be a grind really, really fast. Caretakers have to do it, and I've never met a caretaker who didn't have days when they wanted to scream and run away and do the things they wanted to do for once.

But, getting back to Who, I don't think the Doctor needs, or would appreciate, being "caretaken".
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-01-06 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, yes.

Every relationship I have ever seen (both romantic and platonic) in which one person "lived" for the other in this altruistic way ended very badly and was deeply unhealthy. And I agree with you about caretaking roles. My mother cared for my ailing grandmother for years, and she did it with the kind of grace I can only hope to come close to should I ever be in her position, and it wore her down to a nub. She had to quit the job she loved. She's permanently damaged her back, and she and my dad were essentially trapped in the house with MeeMaw all the time until she went to a nursing home (and even then, my mom visited her every day). I have a great deal of respect for the way my mom handled my grandmother's end of life issues, but it was miserable for my mom.

Sadly, I have only seen like one episode of Dr. Who ever and cannot comment on the show specifically.
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2013-01-06 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, he's like any action hero: glamourous, smart, able to do pretty much anything in a pinch, and completely self-sufficient. And like most people, he enjoys the company of people who love the things he loves and values the things he values -- travel, excitement, meeting new people, and hands-on involvement in the lives of an endless parade of complete strangers.

Which is what makes the OP's secret rather naively absurd. It's like pairing Bella Swan with 007.

Also, your parents sound awesome. I hope they are now recovering a bit from the ordeal.
Edited 2013-01-06 02:45 (UTC)
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-01-06 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs* They are awesome, and they are doing really well. :)

Thanks for the info about the Dr. I keep meaning to try to get into this fandom and having too much TV to watch as it is. LOL
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2013-01-06 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I think there is a real important difference here between having children and all the fuss that goes with them, and journeying with the doctor. And that difference is, while most people aren't too thrilled about cooking and cleaning and yelling and chauffeuring -- travelling all of space and time is not a chore.

There are no lack of takers who would love to give the Doctor company on his journey. Why on earth would he settle for the person who is only doing it as chore, or to be generous, on the off hope that maybe his enthusiasm will catch on to her. He doesn't need to settle for the person who is only going on the trip because it will make him happy. He can get the person who goes on the trip because they really want to go on the trip, and that way he gets to share in her enthusiasm and excitement and joy of travel.