[ SECRET POST #2196 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2196 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 060 secrets from Secret Submission Post #314.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - empty image with a text comment ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it necessarily makes you a neurotic, insufferable douchebag. But it might detract from the originality of your work and end up creating something so full of tropes that it comes across as cliche or predictable. You probably need to tread lightly with these kinda things, I mean the strongest writing out there is so powerful because it is genuine. Too many references and foreshadowing and you dilute your voice, which makes the writing seem weaker.

[(Anonymous)]

Excellent points.

[(Anonymous)]

you know what, I was going to make an asshole comment to this secret, but you said what I was going to and managed to do it nicely, so thanks.

[(Anonymous)]

can I have my brain back?

I was going to do this, too. all of it, including thanking the ayrt for saying nicer than I would have.

[(Anonymous)]

Like commenter above, thanks for putting this nicely because I snapped a little when I read the secret.

Yeah, such a heavy focus on allusions and "cleverness" doesn't make good writing. Also, if you look at how lit. classes usually operate, there's more about analysing the author's personal points, their original perspective and style, the context of their political and social surroundings, etc. Also, *how* allusions are used by the author is more important than that they are there to be found.

[(Anonymous)]

mildly off-topic, but this is exactly why TV Tropes is such a waste of an interesting concept

they refuse with all their strength to get into the whys and hows and just make mindless lists of attributes and events, instead of linking them together

you have no idea how many fights I got into with the community, admin and some of the mods there over it (and it wasn't just me either)

like, imagine if the site actually went into analysis mode with all media! oh, what could have been!

[(Anonymous)]

huh, that really would be interesting. i love checking out text dissections and similar fandom meta and having a hub for it would be useful. i don't see tvtropes doing that though.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

me neither orz

there is a wiki made by dissenters who wanted to make it into TV Tropes + actual analysis, but I don't see it getting off the ground. it needs way more volunteers than it can possibly recruit

[(Anonymous)]

I think a site like that would do well in a blog format, actually. With contributing writers and sorting by tags for specific shows and such.

[(Anonymous)]

depends on the fans contributing

I like that in wikis things can be ironed out and polished... well in paper, because in practice everyone was either too afraid to step on everyone else's toes or went fully into edit wars

but yes, you would probably get better results on a blog

less impulsive editing and adding, but better quality

[inkmage]

See, the thing is, for the longest time I thought TV Tropes was the greatest thing ever, because I also thought its purpose was completely different. I do two things with it:

a) See whether I'm going to want to watch X thing, because there are some tropes I can't stand and some that absolutely make whatever it is golden for me, plus it's a nice way to get a general feel for something and still only spend five minutes looking at it. (And they hide the spoilers.)

b) After I see something (it's always movies or plays for some reason, never books or TV shows), I go read through the tropes page, because if I don't everything muddles itself together in my head. Plus I suck at noticing things the first time through, so the Fridge Brilliance page helps me, and YMMV points out what some people thought and I can think more clearly on whether I agree with them.

TLDR: I use TV Tropes as a recap service and to decide whether I want to spend X hours of my life on a certain piece of media, and that makes it the best thing ever.

Also, in eleventh grade a large part of what we were supposed to do was learn various tropes and things, and TV Tropes saved me so much time via the actual trope pages. About half the ones we studied in class, I'd already heard about via TV Tropes.

Also they have nice fanfic recs, usually.

Also I need to post this, or I'll just keep coming up with thing after thing.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

same for me

although honestly, even after my disillusions, I have to say it does work well as a fandom repository. I've found so many cool fanfics, webcomics and indie videogames through it, and you are right that it does give one a good idea of whether one would like a given work more so than, say, wikipedia

(I still go check the page for my favorite videogames, tv series, etc., just to see what other things fans have observed)

[inkmage]

Yeah - it's not like TV Tropes is a bad thing in and of itself, except for being a black hole of time. It just... doesn't do what it says it does.

It does a completely different thing really really well, but the site itself doesn't acknowledge it and that gets a little... awkward.

[miarrow]

Yes, this is what I came to say, but you said it more eloquently.

[(Anonymous)]

lmao, add me to the club of "I was going to be a smartass about it so thanks for beating me to it and being nicer at it to boot"