[ SECRET POST #2196 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2196 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[lady_songsmith]

So, tumblr is not only hard to use for conversation but actually badly designed? Jeez. Fandom moved there why, again?

[othellia]

It's got a couple pros. I do like the tagging system, although even that I ultimately have a bunch of issues with, the biggest of which is they don't let people search for multiple tags. So you end up getting multiple repetitive tags like "the doctor", "rose tyler", and "doctor x rose" or "avengers", "gif", and "avengers gif." And it's ridiculous bull that they haven't implemented that feature yet since I work with websites and databases for a living, and it is the easiest fucking thing to set up. (And if GET requests are too tricky, they can just switch to POST requests. Woohoo, PHP.) Also, it took me like eight months to discover that a) reblogged posts don't show up in the tag lists and b) only the first five tags show up in the tags list. The other ones are only useful for internal organization and blocking certain stuff with tumblr savior which is an outside application anyway.

And don't get me started on conversations/debates and the like button. When you reblog a conversation, you get all of what's been posted so far, but if you merely "like" it, it's like an abstract like that only applies to everything the original post in the conversation touched. Meaning, you can get people "liking" two completely different sides of an argument and there's no real easy way to sort out which people agreed with which side or which particular comment. I've had stuff pop up in my dash that I've liked, and several months later the original will get reblogged by a totally different friend with a totally different path/outcome and it has my "like" on it.

Personally I just use it as a place to host my gifs and picspams - since it's a largely visual site - and I do all my meta and actual conversations in communities either here or back on LJ. Also, I have several RL friends who use it that aren't on LJ, and I find it's a casual way to keep in touch that's still preferable to facebook.

[othellia]

Also, an an addendum on your original question of why fandom moved there, I think it's a bit of a generational shift, not in age but in time and history on the internet and how we spend it.

LJ and Dreamwidth communities are very much like forums, only they're like a web of forums in which you get to keep your username across a variety of fandoms and interests. I am interested in the community and forum aspect, and not so much on the personal blog aspect (which I update maybe once every two months nowadays).

Tumblr takes that personal blog aspect and intensifies it with the tagging system. In LJ, you either have to know people or participate in the communities for your personal blog to get interest. On Tumblr, you just tag your posts with the appropriate fandoms, pairings, and characters and boom! Everybody sees. Other users are referred to as "followers" not "friends".

So it really is a focus on personal output vs shared discussion/creation. And I'm guessing a lot of newcomers to fandom would rather have that quantitive measure of individual success than just feeling like one of many that make up a community. It's not a new mindset (the age long obsession with becoming BNF's anyone?), but certainly one that places like tumblr make easier to facilitate.

(And I'm obviously not speaking for all of tumblr, just a personally observed portion of it.)

[lady_songsmith]

I can understand the use of tumblr for fannish squee and picspams and so forth. What I don't understand is why things like fic and conversation ever made their way there -- who thought that would work? Tumblr's fine for what it was designed to do: share images. Though frankly I prefer pinterest for that, too; tumblr has a twitter-like tendency to lose the past in a nearly unsearchable archive.

[diabolicalfiend]

That'd be more of a catering to your audience. If you're concerned with getting the view of your fandom at large, then no, but if it's little ficlets with your followers, then it's a perfectly reasonable place to do it as much as anywhere else to get instant feedback from people you know.

There's nothing stopping you from using other sites too.