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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-06 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2196 ]


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herongale: (haruna- heh heh!)

[personal profile] herongale 2013-01-07 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
For me (and this is to address the points you're making in this comment and not to explain/clarify Velvet Mace, since she does a good job doing that for herself):

I wouldn't say that facing sexism and misogyny is a necessary quality of genderswap for me, but keeping the character in-character in terms of their personality while exploring whatever ways their personality might change if they are a woman: yeah, I like that best. An easy example would be if you are genderswapping a misogynistic character into someone who was a woman from birth. They might have some internal misogyny anyway, for sure, but I think it would be different and figuring out HOW it would be different while paying respect to the character's intrinsic personality is the what I like best about this sort of fic.

Even in a non misogynistic society, I feel that personality would change in some ways-- sometimes subtle, sometimes not at all subtle, but also sometimes not at all. It depends on the core personality of the character in question. I don't like the sort of fics where "everything is exactly the same" if by that it means that no thought has been given to how the character themselves would change. I mean, sometimes their opportunities or choices in life would just be different, you know?

A good example from one of my own fandoms: my favorite character is a boy from Ookiku Furikabutte, a Japanese anime about baseball (see icon). He is a pitcher, and really arrogant about it too. If I wanted to make him a girl in his own society, I could still have him playing baseball (well, softball) and keep a lot of things about him the same. But he's the kind of person who would shamelessly use feminine wiles if he had them... he conforms to accepted gender roles more because that's just easier and that's what he prefers, not because of any kind of oppression. Even postulating a kind of idealized Japan without the sort of systemic misogyny it actually has irl, I still think he'd be different as a girl. He'd be a flirt instead of a blushing innocent. He'd be less excitable and more down to earth. He'd be less sweet but more kind. There are just all sorts of small tweaks that I feel would be necessary to make him believable as himself while also making him into a girl, and it all comes down to making his personality work if he were born a woman.

I hope that makes sense? I love my escapism too but for me, an intrinsic part of what makes the escapism fun is my underlying love for the characters. They still have to feel real to me, and paying no attention whatsoever to how something as significant as being born a different gender would change them seems just uninteresting to me. I look at it as a form of AU: if I put Haruna into a world where magic was real and baseball didn't exist, of course that would change some things about him! It would be a lot smaller if I changed things for him as a woman, but it's just as fun to explore how his whole sense of himself would have shaped itself differently.