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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-07 06:25 pm

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[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-07 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I prefer 19th century/pre 1950 literature most of the time, but whatever floats your boat.

Honest question: is there some sort of discrimination against YA books readers? Because I've seen this stuff around.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
there is... people tend to judge older/adult readers of YA.
also, YA as a genre is getting a bad rap because after the popularity of big-name titles (Harry Potter, Twilight, The Hunger Games...), it unleashed a slew of bad ripoffs upon the world.

it's still unfair to paint an entire genre and all its readers as having bad taste, though.

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-08 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Like the horror genre in cinema, I guess?

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Um, I guess, but I find I vastly prefer YA books to horror movies. So maybe not the best analogy?

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I have to say, I have nothing against reading YA, but the idea of being an adult reading YA exclusively does seem kind of strange to me. I mean, I guess if that's what you find entertaining, that's your bag, but at the end of the day, they are written explicitly for teenagers, with all that entails.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair, there is a fair amount of YA that's marketed at teenagers, but isn't necessarily written solely for them, which I think is a point that a lot of people tend to overlook.

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-08 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I discovered that YA was a genre here, tbh. I've read Harry Potter but I can't really recall other YA books I've read. Or maybe I have and I didn't know.

Wait, is the Choose your own adventure YA? I read those when I was a kid.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
The trouble is, while there is some market for adult SF/F, a lot of genre stuff gets tossed in with YA if it doesn't have too much explicit sex, because genre is commonly viewed as "lesser" and fantasy is "obviously for children," which are stupid attitudes that have nothing to do with the content of the books or the people who enjoy them.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
not really explicitly for teenagers. reading a YA sci-fi book vs an 'adult' sci-fi book, for example, the 'level' or writing, plots, and characters are often exactly the same. YA books tend to be shorter, with younger protagonists, but that's about it.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of adult scifi books have the Doom and Gloom that most YA books don't have. I just want to read something that isn't Doom and Gloom all over!

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, like the other anon said, some people are pretty judgmental about anyone outside of their teens who reads YA. There are some people who are similarly crappy to people who read mostly speculative fiction or romance. It's basically just snobbery about people not reading things they deem "intelligent" enough.

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-08 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone should read what they like /shrugs

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's kind of silly for people to argue about it, honestly.
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[personal profile] killaurey 2013-01-08 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
There's a ton of discrimination against YA books readers. I've personally, found it's gotten better in the last couple of years (partly due to the big name series, like The Hunger Games and Harry Potter having grabbed a lot of adult attention too) but there's still kind of a stigma to it. I've been approached by random strangers while reading at bus stops who tell me that I should be ~reading in my age level~ and that they're sure I'm ~smart enough to do it if I try~ and stuff like that for my taste in books.

Mostly, I like YA because it's easier to find likeable people in them. I'm tired of the cynical, gritty, nothing is wonderful and everyone is a horrible person because the world is done in shades of grey books that tend to get stuck in more in the adult section. (There's exceptions to this, of course.)

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-08 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
It's baffling that people care about what other people read, tbh. Except Twilight because fuck it

(Anonymous) 2013-01-08 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I... Absolute strangers have made condescending judgements about your intelligence level based on the book you happen to be reading at the time? That's...wow.

I find the "reading at your age level" thing particularly baffling just because reading age level really only applies to children and their learning level. At a certain point, you're just able to read - and YA fiction is generally at that point. I did read some adult-catered fiction when I was a teen and the only difference I could discern between that and the YA fiction I was reading was...the adult books had more sex and focused more on adult-specific problems. From a technical standpoint, there's no difference. If you can read a full-length novel, you can read a full-length novel, whether it's Harry Potter or Game of Thrones.
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[personal profile] jaydestarlight 2013-01-08 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
thisthisthis!!!
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[personal profile] caterfree10 2013-01-10 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, if some random stranger told me to ~read at my age level~ if I'm reading a YA novel, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves right then and there. I ain't got time for that brand of bullshit, tbh.

Though this semester, I have an excuse seeing as I'm in a YA Lit course, but still. Even if I wasn't, the fact would still stand.