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⌈ Secret Post #2200 ⌋

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[Vanessa Ferlito]

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[Iron Man]

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[The Tudors]

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[Kuroko no Basuke]

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[The Iron Giant]

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[Ace Attorney]

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[American Horror Story Asylum]

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Haven't seen Django yet, but if your reaction to IB was only to feel good about Nazis getting killed ... you missed the point.

Tarantino's movies aren't supposed to have some deep "point" - they're about a grand guignol of blood, profanity and violence with catchy music and quirky characters.

The thing is, iirc, Tarantino actually stated that he wanted to do a movie that 'dealt with America's horrible past with slavery'. So there is the implication that it's not supposed to ~just~ be shoot'em ups.

Yeah, "dealt with" meaning "It was really shitty, and y'all are overdue some revenge porn."

IB: if Tarantino's intention was to make the sole piece of media wherein I stop feeling sorry for Jews during the Holocaust, it was brilliant.

Sadly, I don't think that was his intention.

wat.

When they were gleefully mowing down children who couldn't possibly have had anything to do with the Holocaust at the end of the film I found it pretty hard to sympathize.

Gleefully killing Nazis was great. Gleefully slaughtering kids... eh, kinda, not so much. It's not like you can make an argument that "but but but that's what the Nazis did! Killed Jewish children!" because sure, Nazis did that. Random German (French?) kids didn't.

I don't remember that scene, but even then, weren't the Basterds mowing them down? Some freakish military unit, not a mob of normal jewish people.

You're right, I meant the Basterds. I mean a specific group of Jews during the Holocaust, not all of them, obviously.

Obviously? Your wording wasn't incredibly specific.

Yeah I know it wasn't, I meant the sentiment should have been obvious, hahah. Not all Jews were mowing down children, obviously. Just the Basterds.

When were the Basterds mowing down children?

Right near the end, in the theatre.

Here's the entire film on YouTube. Can you point to where time wise?

Oops, here's the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtytTb094Kc

Oh lol, here we go.

Starting at 2:24:38.

You can clearly see children in the crowd scrambling for the exits, upon which they open fire (those same children also appear in earlier shots at the theatre). One is in a red dress, which I can only imagine is an homage to Schindler's List (albeit a tasteless one).

Not seeing any kids and I think Tarantino would have made it more obvious if that was his intention. Couldn't even find any reviews mentioning it.

Look harder?

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(Anonymous) - 2013-01-11 23:20 (UTC) - Expand

ariakas - 2013-01-12 05:32 (UTC) - Expand

Did you mean to post a link, compadre?

Yes, did you see the post below it ten minutes before yours?

Nope, because it was a reply to your comment, not mine. I went back to look for it, though - my response is already posted.

nayrt

You're kidding yourself if you think that film had a deep, complex message that wasn't "yay violence"

That was the point though

I mean, before I saw it and all I saw was clips and trailers I was a bit offended because all of the Nazi character seem refined and cultured in contrast to the Basterds (who are all Jewish which is still just... kinda silly to me). But when you actually watch the movie you come out with the impression that, nope, it's really just a callback to old post-WWII "AMERICANS KICKIN ASS IN THE WWII EUROPEAN THEATRE FUCK YEAHAAAHHH" movies and it's not much deeper than that. The first scene of the movie did remind me more of like, a European WWII film and it didn't really fit in with the rest of the film and that KICKIN ASS theme, but it was still really really good (best part of the film to me anyway)

My Dad read the script of that first scene and got as excited as he ever gets about movies.

Then we watched it and he was really, really offended. He's Jewish and lost family in the Holocaust and he doesn't think it's appropriated to make relatively lighthearted Holocaust movies.

There is no fucking point to IB. It's literally entirely a revenge fantasy. There is nothing else.