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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-14 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2204 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2204 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 091 secrets from Secret Submission Post #315.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Okay. I do think there are serious disparities between the fan version of the show and the actual version of the show (I was legit shocked at the, to me, almost complete lack of any canon evidence for Stiles/Derek). And yes, it is bizarre that a show with a canon gay character (underdeveloped as he is) very rarely talks about him/ships him, yet is "very concerned" about queer representation. (Then again, having main characters in a homosexual relationship where the fact that it is homosexual is not a big deal would be huge-- way more important for representation than a single side character with little screen time. So I get what they're saying there.)

But, first of all, I'd venture a guess that lots of people don't even know Scott is POC-- and even if they do, I kind of find it hard to believe that's actually a factor in why they talk about/ship other people instead of him. Personally, I do find Stiles and Derek more interesting as characters (though I don't think their relationship is a romantic one *at all* in canon) than Scott. I think Scott can be kind of annoying, if endearing, and sometimes boring. I would guess that's why Stiles/Derek get more "screen time" in fandom.
As for the potato thing, I have *never* heard that reasoning for it. If people were really making some giant leaps and trying to imply that he had a cognitive disability and that made him a shitty character, then yeah, that would be ableist and shitty. But, first of all, saying someone is not smart is not inherently ableist (and, let's be honest, Scott makes unbelievably stupid decisions sometimes). Either way though, I have always heard the "potato" thing as being related to his appearance. Which, granted, is still pretty cruel and gross, but is not ableist in the slightest, only shallow.

I could be wrong about both things, in which case I apologize and will now believe that the TW fandom is far, far shittier than I ever imagined. But I kind of feel like you're attributing some horrible intentions/isms where there aren't any.

Annnnd eating my words.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
SA

Mere moments later, having just explored some of the tags on tumblr with open mouthed disgust, I humbly withdraw all words in defense of the apparently spectacularly gross TW fandom.

I've only ever read fic on Ao3, and only exploring very particular tags, so I never got any sort of overview of how people were talking about the show outside of that very small world. I apologize for speaking without doing my research because wow. Welp, glad I've had my daily dose of "This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things-- BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TERRIBLE."

Re: Annnnd eating my words.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Mind being more specific for those of us who don't have Tumblr accts?

Re: Annnnd eating my words.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Someone linked this down below, and you should be able to browse without an account! Hope that helps :)
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/teen%20wolf%20fandom%20problems

(I think a few of the posts are sort of smug/self-congratulatory, or are heated conversations where neither side can see past the end of their nose, but a vast, vast majority is just... TW fans being unpleasant. So. Take it for what it's worth.)

Re: Annnnd eating my words.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-15 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhh yeah. I already checked that out. Sorry, but all I'm seeing there is a lot of bitter Scott stans.