[ SECRET POST #2205 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2205 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Transformers Prime]


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03.
[Rise Of The Guardians, Journey into Mystery]


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04.
[The Hobbit/The Hillywood Show]


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05.
[Katawa Shoujo]


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06.
[Wreck-It Ralph]


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07.
[Journey into Mystery]


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08.
[Due South]


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09.
[Star Trek: TNG]


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10.
[Fate/Stay Night]


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11.
[Weird Science]


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12.
[Deception]


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13.
[Labyrinth]


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14.
[Once Upon a Time]


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15.
[Nina Hagen]


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16.
[BlazBlue]


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17.
[Sanctuary]


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18.
[Blade Runner]


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19.
[Kieron Gillen]


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20.
[Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]


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21.
[Happy Endings/American Dad]


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22.
[Flesh for Frankenstein]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 065 secrets from Secret Submission Post #315.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[dethtoll]

I think the key thing to remember is that Rachel (and theoretically Deckard, and possibly even Gaff) are supposed to be different from the Nexus 6 Replicants. I think the implanted memories are important, because she behaves like a human from the start (and reacts badly to being told she's a Replicant.) Those memories may be fake, but they're real enough for her. And that's what matters. Tyrell Corporation has successfully created a robot almost completely indistinguishable from humans. The Nexus 6 escapees' only crime was that they wanted to be human. Rachel, for all intents and purposes, already IS human. If Deckard is a Replicant, then he's proof that humanity isn't dependent on whether you're born or built. I think that's the real lesson to take from Blade Runner.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that's the lesson, but I think it's true whether or not Deckard is a Replicant - and I guess I kind of also want to say that the Nexus 6 escapees, like Rachel, already are human for all intents and purposes. Not just Deckard or Rachel, but Roy as well. And I wouldn't say that Roy wants to be human - I think it's rather that Roy wants to be recognized as human, and he wants not to die (which is in itself totally human). It's hard for me to see any way in which Roy acts that's not human, unless you're willing to take the Tyrell Corporation's word for it (and I think the same is true, to whatever extent, for the other Replicants).

[wake_the_dragon]

I agree with this. (Sorry, I don't have a more interesting reply but you've already said pretty much everything I wanted to say.)

[(Anonymous)]

This. Even with no false memories and no implanted idea that they're human, the Nexus 6 replicants, and particularly Roy, were acting with all the passion and desire for continued experience of any living being. What they wanted, as well as to survive, was to have that be acknowledged, to have the value of their existence be acknowledged (and therefore extended).

I always found it interesting that Rachel, with her implanted memories, was more placid, better controlled and in some ways more robot-like, while Roy and Pris were passionate and dying beings, acting in some ways more human than her. In giving Rachel a false life to pretend she'd had, in some ways the Tyrell Corporation were making a more controllable replicant, one that wouldn't ever see her death coming and therefore would never rebel against it. 'She won't last'. But she won't fight, either, not the way Roy and Pris fought. And if Deckard is a replicant, the same way Rachel is, then he won't either. He and her might know, now. But by the end of the movie, they still weren't fighting.

Which makes Roy's "I've seen things that you people wouldn't believe" just that little more tragic, really.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I would completely agree that this is much closer to being "the point"; that you can't really say one way or the other if Deckard is a Replicant and that it ultimately doesn't make that much of a difference either way. That the distinction becomes unimportant is the point, for me.