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⌈ Secret Post #2205 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Transformers Prime]

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[Rise Of The Guardians, Journey into Mystery]

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[The Hobbit/The Hillywood Show]

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[Katawa Shoujo]

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[Wreck-It Ralph]

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[Journey into Mystery]

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[Due South]

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[Star Trek: TNG]

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[Fate/Stay Night]

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[Weird Science]

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[Deception]

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[Labyrinth]

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[Once Upon a Time]

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[Nina Hagen]

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[BlazBlue]

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[Sanctuary]

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[Blade Runner]

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[Kieron Gillen]

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[Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]

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[Happy Endings/American Dad]

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[Flesh for Frankenstein]

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Seeing as he's killed whole towns of people back in the day, I don't see why adding one more body to the pile would sway her. I mean sure, a throw away line of "You want revenge on him cause he murdered your loved one? You should take a ticket, get in line and be prepared to read a book."

Personally I hate the whole "mass murdering off screen bad guy kicks a kitten on-screen suddenly OMG MORAL EVENT HORIZON, I shall now shun you for the 10 minutes it takes to realize nothing has actually changed!"

The thing is, Milah wasn’t just “one more body.” She was his WIFE. Since she’s currently in a romantic relationship with him, I would imagine she would be a bit uncomfortable with the fact that he killed someone he pledged to love for the rest of his life, as opposed to random strangers he has no attachment to. I mean, I know I sure as hell would want out if I discovered that my boyfriend killed his ex, regardless of how much I believed ~“there is good in him!”~ And when she asked him what happened to Milah before she found out, he twisted the truth, like always. Ugh. How can she possibly delude herself into thinking he’s ~changed~ when there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that he has?

/rant over

I completely agree with your second point though.

To be fair, I get the feeling that marrying for love isn't the norm in FTL, despite the show's focus on TRUE LOVE as some kind of panacea. I've a sneaking suspicion that Milah married Rumpelstiltskin because she was already pregnant with someone else's kid, and even if that's not where the writers are going with it, I doubt the characters were ever supposed to be in love. Probably Rumpelstiltskin paid a couple of sheep to her parents in exchange for someone to keep house for him and pop out babies. Marriage for love is kind of a historical anomaly, and as ahistorical as the show is, I think the emphasis on "true love" as this rare and precious thing probably means that most people don't have it. So Rumpelstiltskin murdering Milah isn't quite the same thing as his murdering Belle would be. Not to say that that excuses his actions; murdering anyone is emphatically not okay, and people who say that she deserved to die make me sick. I'm a fan of Rumpelstiltskin, but like all the show's villains, he's got so much forgiveness to earn and so many amends to make and so many habits to change that redemption is going to be a long hard slog, if he manages it at all. As to nothing indicating that he's changed, of course there is. Not necessarily in a healthy way, because his moral compass is almost completely external and just had her memory wiped, but it's still possible that he'll continue not killing people even without someone else to tell him it's wrong. It's still a change from nothing being able to stop him.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't think they were ever in love either. But regardless of how they personally felt about each other, they took vows and they had a sexual history. Even if he didn't love her "as much" (or at all), I would still imagine Belle would feel uncomfortable, at the very least.

No, I really don't believe he has changed. How I see it, change has to come from the heart, and the only incentive for him to do so is so Belle would not leave him (although she always ends up running back...). There are no signs that he regrets what he's done, and like you said, the reasons for his tempered maliciousness is external. I suppose you can say his BEHAVIOR has changed, but I do not believe Rumple himself has actually changed one bit. He still twisted the truth when talking to Belle in the last episode, turned Smee into a rat, and was about to (albeit understandably) barbecue Hook. I love him as a villain, but if they want to sell his redemption arc I want him to actually realize all the shit he's done instead of being transformed by "the love of a good woman" cliche.

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