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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-16 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2206 ]


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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-01-17 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think this is a very interesting and nuanced reading of the show, but I don't think there's a one-to-one correlation between the US Civil War and the civil war represented in Firefly. I certainly don't think the show is an endorsement of slavery, for example, or a suggestion that "the South will rise again."

I've always thought of Star Wars and the civil war depicted in that show as one of the antecedents for Browncoats vs. Alliance.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-17 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely agree that it's not a straight-up endorsement of slavery or anything (which makes sense, since the thrust of the narrative it's drawing on is to minimize the significance of slavery). But I think the show is very unselfaware about the things it's drawing on and the historical background generally, in a way that bothers me, and that's more or less problematic (the stuff with the Reavers is probably ultimately more problematic, the stuff with the Civil War probably bothers me more).
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-01-17 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, Anon.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-17 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Considering the fact that it's the Alliance that endorses slavery (ref: "It must have taken a dozen slaves a dozen days to get you into that dress" in "Shindig,") I'm not sure the analogy entirely holds up.

Not only that, but Joss has a tendency to subvert things, and had the show gone on longer, he might have given us a more nuanced view of the war. Or maybe not.

At the end of the day, I still love the show.