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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-16 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2206 ]


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philstar22: (Magnus)

[personal profile] philstar22 2013-01-17 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
No. Whore as a word has connotations. It is used as a word to degrade woman. And even if that weren't true, the fact that she asked him not to call her that and he kept on was really disrespectful.
wake_the_dragon: (Default)

[personal profile] wake_the_dragon 2013-01-17 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

Even if you (general you) want to argue that "whore" is a techincal term for her job it's still both a) a word with misogynistic conotations and b)something that's shown to bother Inara, which she's asked Mal not to call her.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-17 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, judging from Inara's use of it to describe the employees at... dammit, I can't remember the episode name. They save the brothel that looks like a frozen dinner pack? Inara describes them as whores while asking the crew to go help them. What was I saying?

Okay. Inara's objection isn't to the word itself. Her position -- one that is shared by many people, given the status and lack of stigma afforded Companions and not afforded other sex workers -- is that being a Companion is different from being a whore. Mal's position is that there is essentially no difference, other than one of setting: rich Core people have Companions; out on the Rim, there are whores who are honest about it.

I think it was about politics and socioeconomics at least as much as it was about sex work.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-17 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I think it was about politics and socioeconomics at least as much as it was about sex work.

So do I! There's a moment in the brothel-saving ep ("Heart of Gold" is the name of both the ep and the brothel, IIRC), when Inara's telling him how HoG isn't affiliated with the Companions's guild, and Mal gets this little, kind of impressed/approving smile, and he goes, "So, they're independents." Which of course is also the name of his own political affiliation. And then he sleeps with Nandi.

So it makes me think that what Mal's attitude was supposed to be all about was his not approving of the extent to which the Companions were this central institution that was part of the dominant Alliance socio-political system that he hates. But the way that him calling Inara a "whore" can come off in the context of the 20th/21st-century viewing public is... kind of not the same. Like it came off as slut-shaming rather than establishment-shaming, and then you add the flirty overtones to their relationship and UGH.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-17 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
"heart of gold" Definitely my least favorite episode.