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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-16 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2206 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-01-17 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I understand being able to fill in the spaces, which is what I do in most of my fics. No where have I said that there is anything wrong with this, or with shipping Morgoth or Sauron.

While Morgoth and Sauron are interesting, they do not compell me. I value Tolkien's works for other qualities.

I devoured the Sil when I was 13-14, learning everything I could about Morgoth and Sauron, and LOTR, and the rest of the books, as well as sources because I wanted to so much have these two be villains that I truly enjoy. I even did fanwork, my own pics of what they must look like and interact. But there wasn't enough to satisfy me. There are qualities qualities I respect about most of Tolkien's heroes where I cannot respect them in other fandoms. They display an amazing humility in understanding how much of the "dark side" is within them. In my eyes that lessened the impact of Morgoth or Sauron being the shadow elements of what some heroes in other fandoms would actively deny, even Jedi.

One could argue that Morgoth was set up by the Valar, or Eru the One, to be the fall guy, the one who has to do the onerous duty of being bad, but this is also the story of Lucifer.

I love Tolkien's works because many of his heroes I can get into, unlike a lot of fandoms. But for the deep backstory of villains, I look elsewhere.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2013-01-17 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I don't feel the need to relate to villains or sympathize to like them as villains. I like Sauron and Morgoth precisely because they are unapologeticaly evil. I like them for the same reason my favorite Star Wars character is Palpatine: I enjoy that sort of pure evil devil-like figure. I don't always need a deep backstory.

Sure, sympathetic villains are awesome too. But sometimes it is nice to have a villain who is just a villain without any shades of gray. I love the idea of these two being evil together, of Morgoth seducing Sauron and them enjoying the things the do with the one person who thinks the same way.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-17 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Which boils down to YMMV.