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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-17 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2207 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2207 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-01-18 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed.
I don't post trigger warnings on my fics. I post a summary, genre, and rating, and I expect my readers to be mature enough to understand what subjects might come up with the information I've given them.

Funny thing is that in the 10+ years I've been writing fanfic, I haven't had a single person complain that I need to add trigger warnings. Then again, I really only post to a few places nowadays and have a fairly small circle of readership, so maybe my readers just know that's how I roll and they just deal.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-18 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
I have also seen authors who post at the headings of their fics that they *never* warn for triggers/squicks/etc because to do so would give things away about the content, and to please be aware of this before you read on.

I can see where they're coming from, and as a reader, I sometimes even prefer it that way. IMO, the ideal format is the way some people handle it - make the warnings section in invisible text, so those concerned about triggers can highlight and those who are more worried about spoiling the content can skip it.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-18 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
The invisible text thing is actually a pretty good idea. I might have to start doing it that way.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-18 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
"Maturity" isn't the issue. The issue is not wanting to cause harm to others. Would you post gifs of rapidly-flashing lights without warning, knowing that they could trigger seizures in people with epilepsy, but figuring that it "wasn't your responsibility" to offer them an opportunity to protect themselves?

Maybe there just isn't anyone with PTSD or other conditions with triggers among your small circle of readers -- fortunately.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-18 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, logged in. Eh.

There are a few people with triggers in my readership. They've talked to me about it when I post subjects they find difficult to read, and we have good conversations about it, but they've never asked for me to add warnings. They know what their triggers are. I don't. I can't predict what is and is not a trigger because frankly, anything is a trigger to someone and I don't have time for that nonsense. The protection I offer is an lj-cut, it's up to the readers to decide if they want to venture forth or not given the header information I post. If they don't like how I do things, they don't have to read. *shrug* I don't expect movies or books to warn me about everything in them, I learn what the ratings system means and learn what the story's about and decide where to go from there.

Sorry, I just don't handle life with kid gloves.

For the record, I find flashing .gifs obnoxious, so I don't post them on that principle.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-18 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I... kind of agree with this. I mean, you don't get trigger warnings in published novels and people still read those all the time.

I've got triggers (for self-injury, not for trauma), and I frankly consider it my responsibility to avoid things I know could be triggering to me. I mean, you can warn for common triggers, but the fact is that ANYTHING can be triggering. Someone could be triggered by the description of a certain type of flower, for example, because it brings them back to a trauma, etc. We cannot expect people to warn for everything, because it could be literally anything. Take a little responsibility for your own life.

Also, just wanted to point out (as a general comment) that people who don't understand the difference between being triggered and being upset have clearly never been triggered, because it's quite different. As someone who has been triggered, it's quite irritating to me to hear someone say things along the lines of "People keep talking about rape and I get triggered all over the place" when they have not been raped (this is a true-story example because unfortunately, I've got a friend who does this IRL with several common triggers). There's a difference between getting upset about rape, for example, and being triggered, which only a victim can. But at the same time, people cannot understand unless they've felt it, so I don't necessarily fault people who mix up the two... I just get annoyed by the misuse of the term.

Someone mentioned that they'd like to have the feeling of being triggered described so that they could learn the difference. It's very difficult to describe it to someone who's never been triggered for two reasons: 1) it's a hard thing to describe in a way that you'll clearly see the difference if you haven't been there, and 2) there are different types of triggers and beyond that, triggers are different for everyone. Still, I can describe a couple of my triggers (and keep in mind, these are just MINE, other people may and will have different manifestations) to try and help you get some insight on it.

My mother and I were watching a show that happened to feature my specific type of self-injury. I watched the whole thing with her, but I was very unsettled throughout. Fidgeting nervously and such. And I don't mean unsettled as in just uncomfortable, which is why I can see that people who have never been triggered confuse the two. I mean unsettled as in, I looked at the woman on screen and she was me. It's like looking into a mirror and not liking what I see. I felt very self-conscious throughout, a little uncomfortable around my mom afterward, and it stayed with me for a couple days. I considered that a trigger just because to me, it was clearly different from just being disturbed about something.

The other one I'm going to describe is what most people here would probably call a "weird" trigger. It's not something that would bother me if I read about it in a fic, but it does IRL. It's drinking. When I drink, I am 100 times more likely to self-injure, and in the past I've had some episodes I'm not proud of. Now I've learned some measures to avoid it as much as possible. I do not drink alone, for instance.

Like I said, triggers manifest differently for different people, so make of this what you will. But I hope it was helpful to some. :)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-18 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much my line of thinking. Just said a lot more eloquently! :)

I get it about the 'weird' triggers. There's very little I won't read in fic, but IRL a lot of those things would bother/disturb/trigger me greatly. I guess reading it, it's easier for me to separate it from myself and analyze it than when it's IRL and spur-of-the-moment.