[ SECRET POST #2207 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2207 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 023 secrets from Secret Submission Post #315.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

This. A thousand times this. Re: feel free to spoil me for cote i will never watch it

[(Anonymous)]

Ianto died because he and Jack were too stupid to live.

This.

This is exactly what I hated about CoE and why I was completely unaffected by it: actually I felt rather insulted by it the contempt RTD showed his viewing public.

Not the deaths (though they were stupid and useless), not the plot (though it was so thin as to be transparent), not the whole premise (the apocalyptic stuff was really badly done), not the dishonest tugging at the heartstrings (torturing children, OMG!), but the stupidity.

The whole thing left me cold because exactly as mentioned above, the reason Ianto died was that he and Jack (mostly Jack, to be fair but Ianto went along), acted stupidly: your plan was to get there and talk them to death? That was it? We are the great and powerful Torchwood, run away? That was IT? The totality of their plan?

Color me unimpressed.

Re: This. A thousand times this. Re: feel free to spoil me for cote i will never watch it

[(Anonymous)]

Yes I agree with you, that scene is embarrassing. All they do is tell the alien to go away! Then fire their guns at a bullet proof container.

As Charlie Brooker's show said, Capt Jack spent the episode telling them they needed him to sort it out, then after he arrives, there's a room full of bodies.

It was just shocking writing, and I do think that you could be cynical enough to see that scene as designed just to get rid of Ianto. Given CoE has the plot of the last Quatermass series, Quatermass has to end it by sending the signal through his granddaughter, so RTD knew that was how Jack would end it, having ripped off the plot, so why have the scene with Ianto's death except for a fridging, and even more cynically, to leave Jack and Gwen alone so it's easier to take the show to Hollywood. (That went well)

Re: This. A thousand times this. Re: feel free to spoil me for cote i will never watch it

[(Anonymous)]

That's the problem with Jack. They spend so much time showing us how incompetent he is, sometimes intentionally, but mostly unintentionally, and then keep trying to tell us he's the man for the job. In COE it's not the fact that their plan fails even though it's a pretty dumb, ill thoughtout plan it's just the way they go about things that makes me headdesk because each step of the way it's like watching the Keystone cops. To be that consistently poor at decision-making and still manage to be that arrogant about your abilities I can't even fathom. After three seasons of the same thing I was hoping they'd just let Jack go off and live his life amongst the stars and stop insisting he be in charge of people's lives.