[ SECRET POST #2210 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2210 ⌋

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Comments

[lyndis]

I agree. People who do nice fanart never have an end to comments it seems, but when it comes to fanfics, nobody drops a comment anymore; hell, even "I enjoyed this," is pretty rare!

I'm okay with getting few comments I guess, because I generally write for smaller fandoms, but at least with original fiction even if nobody reviews your book, people who look at it are actual buyers willing to pay some money. In which case, a few dollars is just as good as a review/comment/whatever. imo.

(i'm tired I hope this makes sense)

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I found it's the opposite. Fanfic is where the community happens. Fanart is basically faring into a tornado, trying to establish any sort of anything is futile.

I used to be a fan artist, I just can't be arsed any more.

[lyndis]

That's always how I felt, but this was years ago. I've done both writing and art, and always had a hundred comments on my art but never many on the writing. (But think about it this way, art is easy to look at and access on a basic level, fanfiction takes time to read.)

However, you're right about community. Writers tend to talk more about the characters, the source material, et cetera, and form friendships based off of that, while artists seem uninterested in those things for the most part. It also depends on the fandom. I think Harry Potter is a really hard fandom to get into. I've written some things for it but I'm basically a nobody there, despite having once been a Somebody in various other fandoms in the past.

I'm into fandom more for the community than comments, but in my longest-lived fandom, I have to say that we did encounter a problem where people started to feel obligated to read other people's fanfics...and eventually people seemed to just...stop commenting. I call it burnout, but it was disheartening for a lot of folks, I know. Even if you have a good community of artists, at least it's pretty easy to look at art and find something you like about it/something nice to say, whereas with 'fic, sometimes you'll spend hours reading it and then saying "I liked it," seems pretty shallow when you know the author put hours into writing it and YOU put hours into reading it, etc.

Not that artists don't do as much work of course.

But I think my fandom (video game series) is pretty balanced. We have a lot of writers and artists (and crossovers between the two) who mingle and have fun character discussion/etc.

I really, really enjoy looking at art...it's just disappointing that I suck so badly at it. HAH.

(Also there isn't a good place for artists to really...make connections. I'm convinced deviantART has gone to the dogs.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, especially now with tumblr getting more popular. There have always been people reposting your pictures without a link back to your gallery, but now it's just rampant. Even if people comment on your pics, it happens somewhere where you can't see it, so why bother posting them in the first place? Just keep it between friends.

[lyndis]

Yeah, there are a million reasons why I hate Tumblr and this is one of them. It's a glorified FW: FW: FW: thing and half of the posts there even by friends are eyeroll-inducing. I'm just bitter that I have to go away from Tumblr to block tags. Tumblr should have that as an actual in-site option.

[(Anonymous)]

It's this kind of comments I can't stand.

'People who do nice fanart never have an end to comments it seems,'

No, not really. Not all nice fanart gets tons of comments. And not all fanart that gets lots of comment is all that good. IMO, of course. Because whether the art is good or not is a subjective matter. Much like whether a fanfic is good or not. And something you might consider good is, possibly, not good for many other people.

Also, most of the good fics I'm reading in my current fandom get a very nice and decent amount of reviews. When I read about people complaining about how "the really good fanfics never get the amount of reviews they deserve!" I can't help but actually hear "the things I like are obviously the best so EVERYONE must like them!"

[lyndis]

By "good fanfics" it depends on what people mean. Do they mean well-written or just fanfics featuring their OTP? Because there's a huge difference, which I think you know and are pointing out in your last paragraph, there.

deviantART used to be a pretty good site for comments. Lots of great artists got started there, got tons of comments, had lots of friends (or "friends" depending on situation), but it's really gone to shit lately, and I don't think it's easy to be found there anymore as an artist. Really great artists aren't noticed there because there's just so much stuff overall.

In my defense I've done art AND writing and struggled hard to get comments with writing due to a small fandom but had no shortage of comments on my art--which wasn't even good btw. But tons of fab artists would get hundreds of comments for anything they posted. I don't blame them--hell yeah, they deserve them. They work hard, too.

But there is a lack of appreciation for fanfiction because I think most people feel obligated to say more than a few words when they read something, and most people have very little or nothing to say otherwise, so they say nothing at all.

I did not mean that great fanartists always get tons of comments. Great fanfics DO get good reviews, great art DOES get comments. But it's easier to comment on art, therefore artists will usually have an easier time getting feedback, even if it's just a simple "great!"/"it looks cool"/whatever. I used to comment on tons of art with nice, several-sentence-long comments back in the day. It's easy to look at, easy to evaluate, easy to judge. Fanfic is not. What's good for me/etc etc, yes, but there is shitty art and shitty fanfic, and there are things that are not shitty. Maybe they're not awesome, but it's still easier, I feel, to look at a "meh" piece of art and find something nice to say vs. a "meh" fanfic. That "meh" fic might take 20 minutes to read and comment on, that piece of art will take 2 minutes.

It also depends on fandom like I told the other anon. Some fandoms are so desperate for a fanartist they'll pile comments on. Others? Not so much. I think Harry Potter is hard to get into with fanfiction, but I bet it's worse with art.