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fandomsecrets2013-01-25 07:38 pm
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 03:37 am (UTC)(link)Yes. Because you could simply supervise their time on the internet, or take away use of it. Breaking the computer is not required to stop this behaviour.
If they get into a DUI, and you break the motor or steering wheel of their car, is it then inappropriate?
Funnily enough, most cops don't respond to drink driving by vandalising the cars. Since, you know, vandalising someone else's property is a criminal offense in and of itself.
If they've been using their phone as a way to contact their friends and skip school (or even if they haven't), is breaking their phone an inappropriate punishment?
Yes, because you could just remove phone privileges or put a cap on how much credit/bill you give them money for. And actually, breaking a child's means of contacting the outside world is usually a massive warning sign in abuse cases.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 03:58 am (UTC)(link)Stealing someone's phone is a crime, but a parent can take away phone privileges. And cops can send you to jail. Do you think long term confinement with no option for your belongings, meeting with friends, good food, or choice in recreation is an appropriate response over breaking the motor of their car? If so, you are insane.
Also, when your child is caught doing something as dangerous as D&D, if you honestly think that breaking the car is too extreme, you do not understand the dangers of it.
And actually, breaking a child's means of contacting the outside world is usually a massive warning sign in abuse cases.
So, you object on the grounds it is how they contact the outside world (I guess you think they instantaneously paralyze when approached by a person not on the phone in situations they will frequently find themselves in, like school)? If that's the case, simply taking phone privileges is equally abusive. There is no difference in breaking it, besides the message that "what you have done is serious, and you are facing a serious consequence".
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 04:31 am (UTC)(link)I'd like you to quote me on where I've said "only rarely and in extreme situations". I say it a lot. For instance:
1. This punishment is a harsh one, and therefore should only be meted out in appropriate situations. It is a permanent punishment.
2. A parent has a position and right of authority and control over their children. It is not synonymous with the relationship held with peers. Taking away phone privilege's is a normal punishment for your child, but abusive in the context of your spouse. Similarly, the destruction of your child's belonging does not equate with the destruction of your spouse's.
3. It is not inherently a bad punishment. Like all punishments, it can be used to an abusive degree. For instance, a very, very severe punishment like juvenile detention or jailtime is only reserved when a child "misbehaves" in a very extreme way. This does not mean the punishment itself is abusive, even though it most situations would not call for it.
4. People have been abused with this method of control and punishment. This does not mean it is always used in this way.
5. The action is most likely pretty wasteful, I would not specifically do so myself, but I would not disagree with a parent who did use it appropriately.
6. Punishment is about teaching the lesson of consequences. As this is a permanent, extreme consequence, only like disobedience should be used for it.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 05:04 am (UTC)(link)Maybe you need to be locked in your room for the night?
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 05:20 am (UTC)(link)Huh. That almost reads like a childish insult...wow...I...it's almost like I've discovered a silly little hypocrite~ a silly little hypocrite~ sil~ly sil~ly, a silly little hypocrite!
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 04:23 am (UTC)(link)Also, when your child is caught doing something as dangerous as D&D, if you honestly think that breaking the car is too extreme, you do not understand the dangers of it.
I'm calling troll. We're arguing against destroying things on principle because it's abusive and childish, not because it's "too extreme". And not because we're underestimating the lethality of drunk driving?? And who said breaking someone's engine warrants extended jail time??
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 04:33 am (UTC)(link)Also, abuse is "too extreme", don't you think? I'm saying that breaking their car is not an extreme response at all in this situation, given the very, very heavy consequences of drinking and driving. I am boggled that anyone would say differently.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 05:05 am (UTC)(link)And we're saying it is extreme and you're fucking crazy for thinking otherwise.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 05:34 am (UTC)(link)Why do you have to destroy it????
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-26 05:38 am (UTC)(link)