[ SECRET POST #2217 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2217 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early because sick, sorry.

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 097 secrets from Secret Submission Post #317.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[wldcatsprstr_14]

Vicious, I'll take. Reaching, not so much.

Amy as a person is just 'meh' to me. My contention is more to do with her as a character that someone sat and wrote. That Moffat sat and wrote. From a writing point of few, there's too much thematic similarity between her and Donna for me to be OK with the fact that her storyline didn't live up to it's full potential.

And she is like Donna. I noticed it from her first ep and as the season progressed, the similarities just kept jumping out.

The fiery redhead who ends up in the TARDIS on the eve of her wedding? Who weird things keep happening around? Who's somehow absent for literally every cataclysmic alien-related thing that has been happening all around her? Whose life has been being manipulated by outside forces for who knows how long? Who ends up saving the universe due to the sheer Timey Wimey-ness of her brain?

It annoys me that she's thematically so much like this other awesome character and Moffat let her storyline flop and just skew into straight up craziness. He's notorious for reusing plot points and themes but he usually does it way better than this.

[intrigueing]

Um, no. Oh lol no. Yes, she has similarities to Donna, but she also has things she has absolutely nothing in common with Donna at all. You're cherry-picking like mad. Not to mention ignoring Donna's own similarities to Rose (which don't devalue her own character at all).

Also, um, I feel obligated to tell you this to stop you from embarrassing yourself: I can read your four other identical replies to the other people above. You don't have to repeat it every time, it just looks silly.

But I don't really care about that - it's all trivia. What really repulses me is that in a secret about Ten and Donna's wonderful, amazing, awesome friendship, you just decided to spew venom about a totally different character. That's beyond the pale in terms of fandom etiquette, as far as I'm concerned.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

Anyone who's done a character comparison knows that two characters don't have to be exactly alike to be similar. In fact, that's pretty much what similar means. And I never said that Donna wasn't like Rose or even like Martha in other ways. And, as I mentioned upthread, I wouldn't have had such an issue with Amy's character is I didn't think Moffat had ruined her potential. Because doing a similar thing twice isn't a huge deal if it's done well both times. But I think he really screwed the pooch with how he followed through on Amy's setup.

That's beyond the pale in terms of fandom etiquette, as far as I'm concerned.

If you think fandom has etiquette in Fandom Secrets, then we differ in our modes of thought in more ways that just our feelings on Donna and Amy.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet you're all over this thread whining about how mean people are being to you for derailing the thread to bash another character. "It's Fandom Secrets lol" goes both ways, sorry.

[wldcatsprstr_14]

Whining? Sorry, pretty sure I didn't do any whining. In fact, I recall actually saying I respected the people who flat out called me on my knee-jerky rant and agreeing with them. So yea.

Of course this doesn't apply to people making personal attacks (I'm in the camp of 'get what you give' and I haven't done any of that).

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, no, you don't get to declare your particular brand of uncivilized behavior okay and other peoples' not okay. You opened with a shitty comment and some other people are being shitty to you back as a result. Such is life on FS.

[(Anonymous)]

Honey. You had a major freak out over the fact that Character B appears, to you, to be kind of like Character A. Maybe in your universe, that's totally normal and acceptable behavior, but in everyone else's universe, that's ridiculous and classifies as "whining."