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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-28 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2218 ]


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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[identity profile] natural_blue_26.livejournal.com 2013-01-29 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Just curious, because this is the first I've heard about how you do things - what happens if there just *aren't* the numbers for a particular company to be 40%, say if they're a small family owned business or whatever? Are people fined for not meeting a standard they can't afford to meet?
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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-01-29 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh it is only when a company is big enough (hard to meet 40% when there is 3 leaders) and only really enforced in everything the government owns.

No fines, because it isn't a law it is an official document from the government so has some weight (kinda lawy, I really can't remember the English word for it), so you can't get prosecuted.
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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[identity profile] natural_blue_26.livejournal.com 2013-01-29 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhhh, okay. That makes much more sense. It's more encouraged than it is a by the book kind of thing?
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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-01-29 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I figured out that I should google this to make sure I gave you the correct facts and here they are, or more correctly here is the law (as in a real law, which I didn't know it was before now)

For AMAs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allmennaksjeselskap):

In AMAs:

Genders should be represented as such:

- with 2 - 3 memebers -> both genders must be represented
- with 4 - 5 members -> Two members of each gender
- With 6 - 8 members -> Three members of each gender
- With 9 members -> Four of each gender
- With 10 and more -> 40% of the members must be female or male

There are exceptions and so on, but that is the gist of it.

The 40% of each gender is spread to all corners of Norway really, business/Education and so on.

It isn't perfect though, but we are trying:

6 out of 10 students in higher education is women
3 out of 10 teachers in primary school is men
3 out of 10 leaders are Women
1 out of 5 Mayors are women (2011)
1 out of 10 in the military is female (though the short term goal is 2 out of 10)
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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[identity profile] natural_blue_26.livejournal.com 2013-01-29 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Why thank you! A fairly high percentage of the Norway work force must be female in order for this to work, yes?
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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-01-29 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, about 50% of the workforce is women... (more women than men work part time though)

89,9% of children aged 1 - 5 was in kindergarten in 2011, and we got a year of paid leave (which we split between both genders) when we give birth, so no woman ever have to give up working to have children.
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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[identity profile] natural_blue_26.livejournal.com 2013-01-29 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That's awesome. (But do you mean daycare/kindergarten?) I've noticed an up-tick in stay-at-home dads in America the last ten years or so - I was born in 1985 so I wasn't really paying attention much before that - and that's wonderful you guys are fostering that too. :)
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Re: Pentagon lifting ban on American female troops in combat MOS

[personal profile] making_excuses 2013-01-29 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Daycare apparently (the more you know).

We don't really have a stay at home mom or dad tradition any more in Norway.

Not exactly fostering so much more making a law that says Dad's have to stay at home with their kids, just like the mother have to.

Or it works like this:
- 10 weeks is earmarked for the dads (50 days, where they have to be used before the child is 3, but can be used any way he sees fit)
- Except 3 weeks before the birth and 6 weeks after birth which is the mothers, no matter what.
- Then we got 27 - 37 weeks can be split however one sees fit.

And it can get a bit longer, mothers can stay at home for a full year, but then only with 80% pay. We also pay parents to not send their kids to daycare (until they are 3 years old) and you are by law guaranteed a spot for your child in daycare which I think is from the child turns 3. And it can't cost more than 200€ a month (where you pay half for kid 2 and 3 and so on) for a full time spot.

wow that got long, in my defence I am learning this along side you guys, seriously. I know the gist of it, then I google it to make sure I give you the correct answers.