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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-30 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2220 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2220 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sherlock, The Hobbit, Doctor Who]


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[Hotel Transylvania]


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[Skyfall]


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[Love Actually]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Small Wonder]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Magi]


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[Homestuck]


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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #317.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2013-01-31 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
What exactly counts as fetishization? Simply enjoying and being fascinated with the culture? I'd honestly like some examples cuz I haven't really seen it and I'm not sure what the OP means :/
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[personal profile] fenm 2013-01-31 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, can't I just like Monty Python and Doctor Who and Sherlock Holmes without people thinking it's a weird fetish? I just think they're neat, is all!

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but there's a difference between that and speaking in a (very fake) English accent, making assumptions about the culture, that sort of thing. I love British stuff but... it's not fetishizing. I just like things that happen to be across the pond. There's a difference between that and "OMG ALL ENGLISH PEOPLE DRINK TEA AND RIDE INTO SPACE IN POLICE BOXES!"

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
That's not fetishizing, that's stupid.

[personal profile] lovelycudy 2013-01-31 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
"OMG ALL ENGLISH PEOPLE DRINK TEA AND RIDE INTO SPACE IN POLICE BOXES!"

The world would be better if they did, tbh.

[personal profile] unicornherds 2013-01-31 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I came to ask the same thing. Like, what is the line between liking and writing a culture and fetishizing it? Because to a certain degree people do this with just about every culture out there, moreso when there are fandoms set in those cultures.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-01-31 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think the confessor may be using the wrong term here, but I took it to understand as someone going akin to "If I had a British accent I'd never stop talking their shows are all soo much better than hours I'd totally move to England there are no flaws in that country at all."
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-01-31 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah this is generally what I think of when I think about Britaboos.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-01-31 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
*hours

Where are my typing abilities when I come on to FS.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-01-31 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Are we serious right now
*OURS
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[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2013-01-31 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
There was someone a while back who misspelled write as rite (I think?) and corrected it to WRIGHT before finally managing to spell the right write. XD

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
That was me U_U"

I misnamed the show twice too. My mind just did not want to spell things that day.
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[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2013-01-31 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, it's okay. We all have bad days once in a while.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Er... I'm moving to England because I like it so much. I felt like... I belonged there. Yeah, I know it's not perfect. Doesn't mean I don't love it just the same! :)
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-01-31 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Then...you are not one of the people I described. That's a big change though, good luck.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-01-31 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
wtf DW y u mess with my HTML?

Kind of what the anon replying to fenm said. It's basically weeaboos applied to Britain instead of Japan.

Think of the crazy anime fans who make most or all of their assumptions about Japan and Japanese cultures from the popular exported Japanese media like manga and anime. They like their idea of Japan rather than the actual Japan, and obsess over this idea of Japan. Their idealistic version of Japan is flawless, and any flaws pointed out to them are swept aside as irrelevant or a nice "exotic" problem that's a "nice change" from their own problems they grew up with in their own culture.

I used to think weeaboos were a myth, and then I found my high school's anime club and alternated between fighting down tears and laughter at a lot of their perceptions of Japanese culture. I ended up laughing when someone actually talked about how ~inclusive~ Japan is and offending quite a few people in the process, despite an actual Japanese person there agreeing with me.

Once upon a time, would've said there isn't anyone who fetishizes Britain to that degree, but I've recently met a teenage girl - daughter of a family friend - who is, in fact, that obsessed with Britain and everything about it, to the extent that when my mother and I gave her a gift blanket, she squealed loud enough to make my ears hurt over the old shopping bag we gave it to her in because it happened to have a British flag design on it. Paints her nails with that, has all sorts of "If I had a British accent..." and "I ♥ London..." type shirts and accessories, etc - it's pretty ridiculous. That said, she didn't know until I recently told her that Britain is technically made up of four nations, which I mentioned while explaining a bit about the British flag and why she can't use "British" and "English" interchangeably. Further discussion reveals how little she really knows about Britain despite her obsessing over it, and while it might be a bit cruel of me, I have spent a lot of time over the last few weeks bursting quite a few of her bubbles by explaining why certain things about Britain suck, or how something she's seen a lot in the movies/TV isn't actually a 'thing' there (yes, there are racists in Britain, no, not everyone treats afternoon tea as a religion). I kind of want to take her to a British imports store just to watch her get confused as hell by everything in it...

While she's a bit of an extreme example (this girl is similarly obsessive over One Direction and, while a very nice person, is kind of a spoiled brat), there are a lot of people who tend to act in the same vein. You may or may not have heard something like "I'm so British!" by non-Brits while they say/do something "British-y", that's a big clue right there.

That said, in my experience there aren't that many people who do that within these fandoms. Americans who are fans of British shows and movies seem to be pretty reasonable about British culture, even if only because they had to research it for writing fic or something. (But then most of the big fandoms' crazies went over to Tumblr and I only use Tumblr peripherally, so I might just be missing them entirely, who knows).

I would like to maybe go visit Britain or even live there for a little while. But then I say this about a lot of countries and while I may or may not be open to the idea of emigrating one day, I would never consider myself "British in all but legal nationality" (which is also another one I've heard, at least about Japan.)
Edited 2013-01-31 03:33 (UTC)
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[personal profile] othellia 2013-01-31 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
have spent a lot of time over the last few weeks bursting quite a few of her bubbles by explaining why certain things about Britain suck, or how something she's seen a lot in the movies/TV isn't actually a 'thing' there (yes, there are racists in Britain, no, not everyone treats afternoon tea as a religion).

Go show her the "Muslamic Ray Guns" video.
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[personal profile] obscuritan 2013-01-31 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*Googles*

You've just made my day ^__^
(and for the record, I'm English)

(Anonymous) 2013-01-31 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
It's all over Tumblr, usually reblogged by younger people who are all OMG ENGLAND IT'S FULL OF TEA AND DETECTIVES AND TARDISES AND CUTE ACCENTS AND SO PERF!

That does get annoying after a while.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2013-01-31 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even think people know anymore, like. I've seen people get yelled at for being attracted to fat girls ("fetishizing" them), so I'm a bit confused what that term is supposed to mean nowadays. I think just being fascinated by, or attracted to, something that you aren't is fetishizing or appropriating it. idk.