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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-30 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2220 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2220 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sherlock, The Hobbit, Doctor Who]


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[Hotel Transylvania]


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[Skyfall]


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[Love Actually]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #317.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-01-31 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it's a seriously substantial shift, to the tune of nearly a fifty percent increase from original tolerance, in under a decade. That is a tremendous jump, and the onus on you to provide the data that isn't the case.

And you'd be wrong on that, I've lived in your country.

As for your comment, that just shows how lacking your argument here is. You were clearly and unarguably referring to civil marriage there, in the context of your post and that's what my response was in reference to - and now you've tried to generalise it? No, knock that off and actually answer what I said.

You've almost clearly misunderstood the thrust of my point, which is unsurprising given how badly you're trying to jump to a defence here. No, you're not nearly the worst. Hell as gay rights and treatment go, you're pretty decent. I was just saying you weren't as good as the UK. Which you're not.

Which also isn't to say the UK is some perfect glorious paradise - I live here and live with the fucking downsides, but I wasn't saying that, so.
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-01-31 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
A shift of twenty percent to the positive in support of gay marriage in the US in five years is a huge shift, and you're plainly wrong if you think it isn't. FYI since you mentioned ten years ago, ten years ago two thirds of Americans were opposed to gay marriage. Now two thirds support it. How is that not a drastic shift in public opinion, which you denied has occurred in the comment previous to this?

When did you live in the US? ...In Alabama.

You said 'civil unions are better than no rights', and I pointed out that there are rights. I didn't misconstrue your statement at all.

No you said in your statement that it is a 'a lot less' homophobic, not less, and continued to argue that statement with old statistics and a total disregard to people's statements saying their experience has been otherwise.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-01-31 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That's, that's what I'm saying. That it is a huge shift. That it is a massive one, and that's why I found it hard to believe. I was asking for a bit of backing to that.

You clearly did misconstrue my statement because you went on to talk about general rights, and took my singular statement to be plural. You were talking about general rights that you had, which cool? But clearly not part of the remit outlaid - we were discussing the right to marry.

For the record, I'm the only person to have put out any statistics here. Unless you want to count your completely uncontextualised references to random numbers. And I've dismissed people feels, because it's a ridiculous way to measure the performance of two different countries.