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⌈ Secret Post #2222 ⌋

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[A Tale of Two Sisters]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't even know what you're complaining about. I think it's the use of a mic, but seriously? Mics are important when you're recording sound; be glad they didn't autotune that shit.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think they're complaining about the mics, or sound quality. But that they would have gotten a better singing performance out of some of the actors if they hadn't recorded everything live. So the actors wouldn't have had to focus on acting and singing at the same time.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

^This.

[cadremage]

Wouldn't that indicate that the actors weren't truly correct for the film?

[truxillogical]

Meh, it depends on what you mean by that. I mean, no, Crowe was all wrong for the film because he was just plain terrible--he's chief role was to walk around as spout Javert's lines, which ARE good enough on their own to fool people (like my Dad) into thinking that he gave a good performance.

But Anne Hathaway: I would never listen to her version of "I Dreamed A Dream" on its own for the sake of its musical beauty--it has very little, especially compared to the other vocally trained actresses who have sung the role. BUT. Her performance in that scene was amazing. Could not look away. Eyes welling up, crying, wanting to reach through the screen to give her a hug and tell her it would be okay.

She owned it.

But she didn't sing it pretty.

And that's because, well...movies and stage plays are two completely different genres. I'm not disagreeing with part of OP's statement--I do actually prefer musical movies where the soundtrack is pretty, for the most part. But a stage play has to make it pretty, because it's, like, 80% auditory and only 20% visual--you can't really see fine details or the actors' most subtle expressions on a stage. And you want the beauty of the music to really carry everything, nevermind that it really has to be sung clearly because people won't have enough of a view of the actor's mouth to do that subconscious lip-reading we do with movies and TV. Conversely, with a movie, that actor is right up there, in our faces. It's at least a 50/50 audio/visual relationship. Maybe skewed even more toward visual. So sounding pretty isn't as important as doing screen acting (as opposed to stage acting) because we're expecting screen acting in a movie, and that's where the primary emotional resonance will come from.

You can't actually cry and sing at the same time and have it sound pretty. But if you're in a movie and you really want it to have a huge emotional impact on your audiences, and your choices are stage-cry and sing beautifully, or actually cry and have the singing sound just as ragged, it's not a bad call to go with the latter.

[cadremage]

Hmm. This is a very good argument, and I can very much see what you're saying. I think, then, it's a matter of how one is approaching the material. A person approaching it from a stage-oriented standpoint will despair at the quality of the music. A person approaching it from a film-oriented standpoint will exalt at the display of emotion.

(Not that a stage-oriented person can't appreciate emotion, or that a film-oriented person can't appreciate musical quality. Each individual simply has different standards and thresholds for such).

[(Anonymous)]

idk about anyone else, but I really thought the performances were much, much better for the raw emotion in them.

The auto-tuned "let's make it sound pretty no matter what the song is about or how horrible everything is for the character" shit sounds just like that to me - shit.

[truxillogical]

Well, I don't think most movie musicals rely on autotune. That's a fairly new thing. And there's certainly a medium between bleeding openly from sheer emotion* and say, Glee that most of them manage to fill. And they certainly don't use autotune in the actual stage shows.

*(Except, again, for freaking Crowe. Javert really should be cracking in every scene, dangit, not yawning. Never heard a less emotive, more bored version of "Stars" in my life.)