[ SECRET POST #2230 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2230 ⌋

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Notes:

Early because blizzard, not quite sure if power will last.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

There's nothing inherently wrong about it. You cannot account for the feelings of something that does not exist. If you have a child with the full capacity to raise it well, this isn't selfish. I do think it's selfish to think your parents should have somehow known that you would be the ejaculate that never wanted to be born. There is not evil or good bias to life naturally. Certain conditions can be, but life itself doesn't lend itself to being a good or bad choice, sense many, many things play into the quality of your life besides the simple act of birth.

By that standard, everything that ever happens to anyone is the fault of your parent. If they hadn't given birth to you, you might not have broken your arm, or got humiliated in high school, and so on. But then, wouldn't it also be your grandparents fault for bringing your parents into the world?

[dreemyweird]

Well, there's nothing "inherently wrong" about anything, since the concept of evil is highly subjective and probably does not even exist outside of the human mind.

I do not disagree with you, anon, because I am aware of the logical chain you just produced. As I already mentioned, in most cases it does work out, so no reason to worry. However, as absurd as it may sound, this is a part of the reason why I feel that life mechanism sucks.

How is it selfish? Stupid - maybe, but it doesn't have anything to do with selfishness.

It is true that feelings of an unborn can't be accounted for, but I do think that there's something very wrong with the situation when parents produce to a child, then some years pass, the child says that she/he is unhappy and would prefer to be never born, and the parens are all like "well, that's your problems, we weren't obliged to know that you would turn out like this".

[(Anonymous)]

On the surface it sounds wrong, but in reality...I don't think it is. You can say "I'm sorry you're unhappy", but it's very difficult to pin down exactly why someone is unhappy. Could it have been their upbringing? That's often likely, but it can be other things, too. And generally people cannot determine what it is. I think it's selfish to blame it on your parents (provided you had a good childhood), because that's presuming you know EXACTLY what caused your unhappiness in the first place.

And then there's a whole argument about the meaning of happiness to someone who never wanted to exist, but that's getting very existential.

[(Anonymous)]

What if some years pass and your child says "I'm so happy and I'm glad that I was born!"

It's a gamble, yeah, but as you said you can't tell in advance whether or not someone wants to be born - but they might enjoy their life very, very much if they are born.

Lots of people like being alive. I'd say it's way better than 50/50 odds, so why bet that your potential kid won't enjoy life (provided you could provide it with a comfortable life - that would certainly affect whether or not they enjoy life).

[dreemyweird]

Thank you, anon. You really make me feel better about it. I suppose it is more than 50/100 for happiness

[velvet_mace]

Way more than 50/100. Way, way more. More like 99/100 or even higher. And maybe even you in a bit.

I've been thinking of you all night. I really hope that things start looking up for you soon. A lot of people here have given you some sense of what depression is like and I hope that helps.