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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-09 02:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2230 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
There's always a practical benefit to people having children, in that it furthers the existence of the species.

You can argue that we're overpopulated (we're actually not; we simply do not utilize the resources available to us in the most efficient manner, and that most certainly is as a result of selfishness). You can argue that humans, as a species, do more harm than good, and that our propagation is therefore undesirable. However, inasmuch as we are still animals, and we are still products of evolution, a significant amount of people among us are always going to have within them a drive to reproduce. And the primary benefit is always going to be that it ensures that we do not die out.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Overpopulated or not, there's certainly no risk of our species dying out anytime soon, especially if governments keep trying to restrict people's choice on the matter.

That aside, I have to wonder what the "selfless" benefit is to procreating rather than adopting, if you're arguing for the propagation of a species rather than the propagation of a lineage. Isn't it far more beneficial to the species as a whole that we care for and nurture the human beings who are already here, rather than simply adding more to everybody's detriment?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-02-10 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds very Tragedy of the Commons-ish.

It's an interesting point.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
It's not selfless, and that's not what I'm going for.

It does make sense to adopt rather than to procreate, and on a personal level, I wish that it was more easy to do so (and that there was less of a stigma attached to it). However, I am not arguing from the mindful or logical point of view. I am arguing from the instinctual and evolutionary standpoint. As intelligent as we are, and as much as we like to think that we've moved beyond the beginnings of our species, we are still very much creatures of the wild. And in the wild, propagation is beneficial.

I suppose what I'm really trying to say is that I don't think it's selfishness that drives parenthood so much as that aspect of ourselves that we would like to deny exists.