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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-09 02:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2230 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2230 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll preface this by saying I don't really have a horse in this race, and I believe that people should be free to have or not have children as they desire. There's nothing inherently selfish in choosing not to have children.

That said.

"No, it's delusional. The reality is that life is not happy, warm, or comfortable. Life is full of pain and hardship and suffering - bringing a child into this world, no matter how well you think you can care for them and make their life perfect, is a harmful act. Not understanding this is naive and grossly detrimental."

Seriously? Seriously. Yes, it is a fact that suffering is inherent to life. That is, has been, and always will be true. However, life (for most people) is also full of joys, meaningful relationships, and pleasure. There is nothing naive or grossly detrimental about maintaining that bringing new life into the world is, ceteris paribus, a good thing. It is not harmful to bring a child, whose life will contain an overall balance of good, into existence. One could argue that a child whose life ends up containing an overall balance of suffering is harmed by being brought into the world (alternatively, by not being killed in infancy), but to be honest, I also strongly, strongly oppose a utilitarian ethics of that sort. (For reasons whose elaboration would require more space and energy than I have at present.)

Life is not that simple or reducible, and neither are ethical judgments about the value of bringing a person into existence. You are naive if you really think they are.

In conclusion, you sound strikingly like Peter Singer; I'd bet dollars to donuts you love his work, in which case I'm not sure there's much I can say anyways.