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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-09 02:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2230 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2230 ⌋

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Notes:

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-09 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm torn on it. It's not like death has ever been a respite for them. I'm dead certain that the only reason that neither of them has committed suicide before is because they've seen both Heaven and Hell and both are worse than continued existence on Earth. I still think that if Michael hadn't promised Dean to keep him safe, if he had offered the oblivion that Raphael's vessel had received, that Dean would have broken and said "yes".

Spoilers for the past two eps upcoming, btw.

I think they're setting up for the endgame with the whole Men of Letters bit. Sam seems to have found something he would enjoy doing as a long term goal. He might not want to keep hunting forever but he could be happy as a Man of Letters. It basically puts him in a position where he can be a Bobby for future hunters, just a bit more refined. He can do all the research his nerdish little heart desires but without having to go on hunts. It's something he could do while having a family, if he wanted one.

I'm just not sure where it leaves Dean. Robert Singer has made a point of repeatedly describing Sam as the bookish, emotional one who craves stability and Dean as the brawny, impulsive, incapable of settling down one. They're not characterizations I particularly agree with (both of them are emotional, both are smart, both incredibly good with research, both can be physical, both are good fighters, and both are capable of long term planning and screwing up by jumping in without thinking things through) but his interviews seem to pin Sam's happiness on the Men of Letters thing while kinda implying that Dean finds the books boring but is okay with the weapons. It doesn't say a lot for Dean being able to settle down with Sam there.

My ideal would have been Dean staying with Lisa, tbh. I hate how that storyline ended. I'd have loved something where Dean and Lisa were together (with Dean continuing to train Lisa in self defense and hunter lore, eventually letting Ben join in because he finally accepted that hunting itself didn't turn one into a monster) while Sam played a role similar to Bobby's, where he got to research and learn (and ideally help not-quite-human people find their path). Still deeply involved in each others lives, still working together every day, but not necessarily living in each other's pockets anymore. But happy. Happy with each other and their families and their lives. Happy.

...Well, that or eternally on the road together having been turned American Gods style into minor gods because immortal!Winchesters who get to stay on Earth somehow feels so much happier an end to me than the Winchesters going to Heaven or Hell.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit. Someone else who wanted Dean and Lisa to be endgame? I think I've found a new friend.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-10 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Dean/Lisa shippers unite! :)

I'd have loved for them to have been endgame. I thought they had a wonderful dynamic and were very sweet together, in the little bit of time we got to actually see their relationship. Plus, Lisa and Ben made Dean happy. The way that canon seemed to say that hunting and a family couldn't coincide felt incredibly contrived to me.