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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-12 06:38 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I really haven't seen nearly as much over-the-top criticism as I have people going, "YOU SAY THIS IS RACIST BUT IT CAN'T BE RACIST BECAUSE FUCK YOU, SJW. LA LA LA." Like I'm sure some SJWs take it way too far (for example, the people I've seen arguing that interracial couples are inherently reflective of racist hierarchies??), but most of the time I see people who are super defensive because they got embarrassed by their own bullshit.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 12:22 am (UTC)(link)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. Riley and their ilk are total shitholes as far as I am concerned but they are not nearly as prevalent in fandom as people whining about evil SJWs. The amount of people complaining about jerkass SJWs is extremely disproportionate to the amount of jerkass SJWs themselves.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
"but most of the time I see people who are super defensive because they got embarrassed by their own bullshit."

The thought hadn't occurred to me before, but that's a great explanation for this phenomenon. Case in point: secret whining vaguely about people going on about social justice. If they hate "thinking" about it so much, why do they keep creating arguments out of thin air? (And there's no way blanket accusations like that aren't going to get responses...)
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-02-13 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
people who are super defensive because they got embarrassed by their own bullshit

DING DING DING
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[personal profile] rivia 2013-02-13 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
thiiiis
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[personal profile] hoodlum 2013-02-13 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
p. much

(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, this. It even happened in a discussion I had with close friends. Not once did I yell, snark, accuse or even mention the word "racism", but I still got the OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE RUINING MY FUNTIMES WITH THIS TALK OF WHY THERE AREN'T ANY POCS IN THE _______ FANDOM ALL I SAID WAS THAT I DIDN'T WANT A [MAIN CHARACTER] WHO WAS BLACK IT'S JUST PERSONAL PREFERENCES I'M NOT RACIST HOW DARE YOU, etc. etc.

Worst thing was, they know damn well I'm a PoC and they still didn't see anything wrong with saying they didn't want to have a PoC as a main character because of reasons. I'M the asshole pointing out this is bullshit.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-02-13 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much my entire beef with the SJ debacle all together. Both sides keep delegitimizing the other, and no one is willing to work towards a middle ground of "hey, let's advocate social issues and spread social justice in a positive and encouraging way!".