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fandomsecrets2013-02-12 06:38 pm
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[ SECRET POST #2233 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2233 ⌋
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(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 08:48 am (UTC)(link)not only is she ridiculously invested in defending a song of ice and fire while heavily hating on anything written by women for being problematic (and it's not just white women she does this two, she is akin to riley in that she will happily paint anyone as white if she doesn't like them even if they're a person of color), she is also really disgusted by women's sex drives and continuously paints every slash fan as a gross slutty horny straight women even when repeatedly told how offensive this is.
and there are lots of other things she does but tbh it's been awhile since i've interacted with her and those are just the main points i recall.
anyway, all this to say she is among the more obnoxious of sjws and she's not american or white, which are the two stereotypes that i see of 'obnoxious sjws' OH. oh i forgot she also hates american people of color for being imperialists or something, idek i just remember she had a beef with anyone calling themselves asian if they didn't actually live in asia.
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(Anonymous) 2013-02-13 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)so uh, this characterization of sjws all being straight white women is completely incorrect. the huge assholes that powertrip on being more sj than thou aren't all just priviliged women studies-taking white girls, there are men and women of color involved, and their main hatred is directed at those very lily-white gender studies girls that everyone else sees as being representative of sjws.
which isn't to say white girls are being oppressed by those evil people of color or anything ridiculous like that, i'm just saying there is a huge strain of misogyny about sjws, both from sjws themselves and from those criticizing them. there's this idea that we can just dismiss everything sjws talk about because it's just white girls who don't know anything - that's harmful, bc it completely mischaracterizes everyone involved with the movement as white, and also takes away from the very real problems that a lot of sj-oriented people are talking about.
there's also this idea that the only people being hateful and detrimental to the cause are, again, the white girls that don't know anything. and finally, there is the idea among some sjws (i use sjws to distinguish that i am talking about the overthetop hateful jerks like neo_prodigy and winterfox and genderbitch and riley, all of whom are mentioned in this thread) that the real enemy and main oppressors to be dealt with are not straight, cis, white men, but straight, cis, white women. obviously, yes straight cis white women have more privilege than any woman who is not straight, white or cis, and they are certainly a part of the oppression of minority groups, but so much of the anger among the really virulent and hateful sjws seems to be directed primarily at women.
tl;dr there is this huge idea on both sides of the sjw debate that the biggest problem with anything and everything to do with sjws is white girls, which is just not fucking true. yeah, there are shitty straight cis white girl sjws but they're not the only ones out there, and claiming that every single issue raised by any sjw ever - even completely legitimate ones - is just 'white humanities-studying college girls suffering from white guilt' is a completely simplistic dismissal and detrimental to all aspects of sj.
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