[ SECRET POST #2236 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2236 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Inda series]


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[Les Miserables and Discworld]

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03.
[Three Kingdoms 2010, Legend of Chu and Han]


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[DBSK]


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06.
[The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Shivering Isles)]


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09. [SPOILERS for ]

[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni]


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10. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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11. [WARNING for rape]



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12. [possible warning for sexual assault (as I'm sure the thread will contain discussion of it)]



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13. [WARNING for abuse]



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14. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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15. [WARNING for suicide]



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16. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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17. [WARNING for rape/non-con]

[Homestuck]


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Comments

[yeahscience]

I guess not, but it's pretty heavily implied that his father made him believe she was willing. He certainly doesn't think of himself as having raped her.

[sugar_spun]

Which was actually my issue--I took that to be sort of thoughtless writing on GRRM's part.

I can see your point though.

[grainne_mhaol]

I was convinced for four and a half books that Tyrion had massive PTSD and denial issues over Tysha's gangrape and his own part in it as both rapist and victim. He seemed to get stuck in mental loops unable to process the memories properly. Then theres his confused/damaged attitude to Shae.

At the end of ASOS/beginning of DWD he was finally forced to confront the reality of Tysha's victimhood. For the first time he gets past some of the cognitive dissonance and starts thinking about Tyasha's trauma - not just his own - and the absolute horror of what was done to her. And his brain gets stuck on "where do whores go".

So I never thought he really believed she was willing. Just that his brain had erected many bad defense mechanisms to keep from dealing with things.

(OTOH I thought where that was going was that Tyrion would straighten out his attitude to whores and his white knight complex would grow into proper empathy. Instead he deals with it by committing another rape - this time uncoerced - and lost my sympathy forever, so now I wonder if I just read too much into it all.)

[yeahscience]

Actually, I think that's a really interesting interpretation. I'm definitely not trying to excuse Tyrion's actions when I say he didn't know -- I just think it kind of, IDK, diminishes his storyline to imply that he was active and aware from the beginning when so much of his story is about confronting his own history. But I really like the idea that he was pretty much just straight up in denial/prey to his own defense mechanisms and that rather than grow from confronting them, he totally backslid.