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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-17 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2238 ]


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[personal profile] hwc 2013-02-17 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you me, anon? This is exactly what I've been saying about Kafka ever since that miserable ninth grade.

Although I liked it better than Die Besuch der alten Dame. Kafka had emotional issues. Whoever wrote that stupid play was a miserable old misanthrope who hated humanity.

Oh, okay, you're not me. There are a couple of Dürrenmatt's plays I really love, including Der Besuch der alten Dame. He's the only German playwright whose works I own. Can I ask what it is about the play that you hate?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Just the miserable outlook on humanity, I guess. I don't remember very well, just that I found it even more depressing than Metamorphosis. It was at the end of the semester while Metamorphosis was at the beginning, though, so that might partially have been cumulative.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-17 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
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Spoilers for Besuch der alten Dame

I had exactly the same problem. It was so dark and hopeless. I mean Ill was a terrible person but still the whole concept of your whole home town turning against and killing you in the end is just so freaking terryfing and depressing. It was the same with Metamorphosis and Bahnwärter Thiel. It's just so depressing in the end. Seriously what is with German writers and depressing stories?!
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[personal profile] hwc 2013-02-17 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The same teacher that made us read Metamorphosis also made us read Bahnwärter Thiel! I don't think I've read a single German classic that didn't have a depressing ending.

And our German teachers all used to wonder why we didn't like reading the classics in school.
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[personal profile] hwc 2013-02-17 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
If you ever feel like giving Dürrenmatt another try I'd recommend Romulus der Große. It's not as well known as DBdaD, but it doesn't have that bleak view of humanity. Of Dürrenmatt's works that I have read DBdaD is the worst in that regard, I think, but as a whole I'd say that Dürrenmatt isn't nearly as depressing (and rage-inducing, but that might just be me) as Kafka.

You know, come to think of it, most German ~classics~ are a hell of a lot depressing. I don't think I've read a single one in school that had a happy ending.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-02-17 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you considered reading it after ninth grade?

There's a decent chance you were too young to really get it.
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[personal profile] hwc 2013-02-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I don't think I can get my hatred of all things Kafka now. It's a kneejerk reaction by now.

And it's not so much about getting it, because I did get most of what mekkio described upthread. As I said, everything about the story and how it is written is messed up, but in a way that completely pissed me off.

I don't know, maybe I will try and read Kafka again these days. Though we did read parts of Das Urteil, I think, in twelfth grade and it only made things worse.

(But I think you're on to something about being too young. In hindsight I don't think that reading Metamorphosis in ninth grade was the best idea our German teacher ever had, especially if she wanted us to appreciate ~proper~ literature. But on the other hand she also thought that we were all stupid dunderheads beyond help and that we wouldn't recognize a good book if it bit us in the ass. I'm kind of sad that I never got to see her reaction to Twilight. It would have been hilarious.)