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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-17 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2238 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure about cheese, as such, but if you want the original soap opera, look at mythology. Any mythology. The Greeks were the most massively OTT how-many-implausible-and-downright-barmy-reasons-can-we-have-for-strife-and-murder that I've come across, but the Egyptians did some wonderful things with intrigue, murder and incest, the Chinese threw in some quality court intrigue and murderous scheming (and the odd road-trip of awesome) ...

Honestly. The closest thing I've ever seen to a modern TV soap opera is greek mythology. Or Shakespeare. Shakespeare was pretty damn soapy. Though, yes, Austen also has a lot to answer for.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-02-18 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I concede your point. :) We have clearly always been interested in telling stories of murder and bigamy and jealousy and etc.

I do think that Victorian sensation literature more closely resembles modern soaps than earlier mythological sources, but I'm all about reading and enjoying All the Things.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
The Victorians has the advantage of a slightly closer-to-modern social structure to work with, I'll grant you. But yes, clearly humanity has ever been fond of telling stories about other people's incredibly elaborate misfortunes ;)
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[personal profile] kathkin 2013-02-18 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh if you want ancient Greek soap opera - look up the Greek novels? There's about half a dozen or so, and they're all cheesy soap opera romances. With mistaken identity. And seduction. And pirates.

I quite like Heliodorus' Ethiopian Tale because the female lead is awesome but unfortunately the treatment of Ethiopian characters is... questionable. :/
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2013-02-19 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, cool. I haven't read that one before. :) I will add it to my list. Thanks.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-02-18 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I remember how I hated Shakespeare for Romeo and Juliet. I was a child with a strange world outlook, and when we were writing an essay about Shakespeare I wrote that it was a mediocre soapy shit and that Juliet behaved like a dunce. Naturally the teacher was not impressed.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, R&J was so totally a soap opera. Though I thought Juliet was actually the smart one of the main pair, she was reasonably sensible about things, Romeo was a melodramatic, over-emotional little idiot. The character I feel most sorry for in that entire play is Paris, who was actually being responsible and understanding for a man of his time, was a completely innocent in the feud, and got killed because he happened to be paying his respects to his dead wife-to-be and wanted to stop her family's enemy from desecrating her grave. (Also the Prince, because hell if I'd want to be in charge of a city that the Capulets and Montagues were having a feud in).

(Anonymous) 2013-02-18 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Bad teacher. R&J was a parody of the Twilight-esque writings of the time. It was mocking that sort of writing. Sadly, it did it well enough, too many people think it's real!