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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-18 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2239 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2239 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Elementary]


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03.
[Pokemon]


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04.
[Noah, Power Rangers MegaForce]


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05.
[Mass Effect]


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06.
[Resident Evil]


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07.
[Medaka Box]


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08.
[Shameless]


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09.
[Star Trek 2009]


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10.
[Dreamwork's Sinbad, Avengers, American Gods, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Batman, Gunnerkrigg Court, Grim Adventures, Trickster's Choice/Queen]


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11.
[American Dad]


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12.
[Laurell K. Hamilton]


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13.
[my neighbour totoro]


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14.
[Medaka Box]


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15.
[Downton Abbey]


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16.
[The Red Panda, Black Jack Justice]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 080 secrets from Secret Submission Post #320.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-19 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
The archetype is way more complicated than do crap to people for the lulz. They're agents of change, both culture heroes and crazy villains, they help while they're still selfish, they create and destroy. I'd never put folks like the Joker in the trickster table. Too extreme evil, like you say.

This, so much this.

Mind, when I'm pointing to a modern version of a Trickster, I point at Q from Star Trek. Omnipotent, cruel, petty, a touch buffoonish, but also brave when pushed, and his actions overall cause more good than harm, despite being cruel and unusual at the time. An agent of balance through chaos, and explicitly in counterpoint to the more rigidly ordered pantheon that is the Continuum (and the Federation, really).

TV tropes describes what he does as 'obfuscating villainy', disguising change through cruelty, and I think that fits a great many tricksters, really. Though a lot of them are, actually, cruel or evil as well. It's just ... the point of chaos is that is swings in all directions, good and evil and everything between. Because, well, chaos.
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[personal profile] taotrooper 2013-02-20 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I've actually debated about watching the TNG episodes with Q at least. I caught like one episode with him once and I digged him. He seems quite fun.

It's funny you mention TV Tropes, because it's what inspired a lot of my little rant above. I went to the Trickster page once for cool series with those to watch/read/play, and instead I find the most insane list of characters raging from Charlie Chaplin's persona to the fucking Joker. That site is now plagued with idiot editors now, so I'm not surprised about your misleading description.