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04. http://i.imgur.com/I5oGDPV.png

Is it weird that I feel like that poster makes it look like they combined Andy's and Liam's pictures to create that image of Spartacus (dude on the right)? Maybe it's just because he's covered in so much dirt and blood...

Man, don't root for Crassus, fuck Crassus. I mean, you don't have to root for Spartacus, but don't root for Crassus.

(I've never actually watched an episode of Spartacus, just going off history here)

Take heart, Crassus haters! Long after the series has ended, Crassus will get his comeuppance in Parthia.

(And really, who DOESN'T love the Parthians?)

Didn't everyone get their comeuppance in Parthia? ;) ~~I mean, Marc Antony totally got his ass handed to him there.~~

Parthia is clearly the ancient equivalent of Asia, in the sense that you should never get involved in a land war there.

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(Anonymous) - 2013-02-20 01:33 (UTC) - Expand

Why don't you root for them to quickly, cleanly wipe each other out and let the less obnoxious people take over?

lol, not gonna happen until 31 BCE.

Yeah.

I think it says something that the most likable person during the time period of the fall of the Roman Republic was probably Cato the Younger, who's basically most well known historically for the massive stick he had up his ass.

That's the point. The first few seasons were very cleverly crafted to only show us Romans being dicks; we didn't see any normal Romans who get up every day, go to work, tend to their kids, and try to scrape by. Along with Spartacus and his compatriots, we as the viewer have been denied access to the humanity of the Romans. We've been shaped to see them as upper class slave-owning douchebags, and during Vengeance that's mostly who we saw bearing the brunt of the rebels' attacks (with the exception of the Roman army, but they're largely constructed for us as a faceless mass carrying out the will of the upper echelon of Roman society).

Now that we've seen how horribly the rebels have treated the normal, everyday Romans of Sinuessa en Valle, we've been able to get the other side of the picture that we were missing. We see why the rebellion had to be put down. Their motives started out good (slavery is bad and must be stopped!), but as in the case of everything ever, it gets fucked along the way, the principles get distorted, and innocent people get caught in the crossfire.

This.

I have been loving this season so far for all the reasons you listed. War is never black and white. I love how the show is acknowledging that good people die in a war no matter what side you think is right or wrong.

I still love Spartacus and co. (and really believe Spartacus thinks what he is doing is for the best and tries to limit casualties), but I love that I sometimes don't know who I am rooting for in a scene.

Edited 2013-02-20 01:05 (UTC)

Pretty sure they're doing it on purpose...making the Romans more likable and the rebels less so, I mean. We all know that Spartacus and co. are going to be slaughtered, but nobody would want to watch it happen if the ultimate winner was someone like Glaber.

The guy on the right is so unbelievably hot I can't even

And HE'S the ugly replacement!

LIAM IS NOT UGLY, HE IS FLAWLESS. (Andy was too, though. RIP Andy.)

ANDY IS FLAWLESS-ER ;P

(Anonymous) - 2013-02-20 04:50 (UTC) - Expand

When there's a war, both armies make horrible things to innocent people. I like that honesty. If the show had tried to make me believe that Spartacus and his men were always noble and civilized I would have felt cheated.

+1.

It is hard to watch some of the characters we've come to love act in the way they have, but that's the point. Nothing about war is pretty and it shouldn't be portrayed as such.

Eh I stopped watching a while ago (not for any particular reason, I just forgot) what are they doing that's so bad?

Yes. Root for the Romans. After all, they are the victors in history (who'd be an idiot and choose the loser?).

The Romans are the New York Yankees of the ancient world: they win so freaking much that you get sick of them and start to hope the underdog will knock them off their pedestal (though in this case, it's a moot point). And even the Roman Empire eventually fell, so they weren't victors forever.

I appreciate that this season has shown us more of a balance between the Romans and the Rebels. We've seen that not all of the upper-crust Romans are evil, power hungry creatures with no morality and some of the Rebels can be just as cruel and abusive as the Romans they're fighting against. It's good to have that balance, even if it's difficult to watch characters we care about do really terrible things.

I only watch it very infrequently, but I don't really "root" for anyone. For one, they are all fucking assholes. Every single one of them. Two: It's history. It's pointless to root for anyone because we know what happened. Three: I just can't take the series seriously. It's so ridiculous, with all the overdone slow motion and streams of blood and soft porn. It's just so silly and over the top.

this is ot and random, but I only watched a few S1 episodes and found weirdly manipulative that the Romans were portrayed as the only ones who owned slaves and the only ones whose sexual costumes were different from those of post-Christian societies (except for Varro, the sympathetic Roman, who of course did not want to cheat on his wife!)

i don't watch the show, but if it really creates that impression than they did a good job whizzing history down the leg of their pants, since crassus is one of the great assholes of antiquity