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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-20 06:47 pm

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insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-21 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Since Sburb equals genocide, Pretty much.

Though it's not necessarily kid exclusive. Consider FedoraFreak.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well, but it's not like the genocide is the individual responsibility of any one person playing the game, is it? Given the existence of Sburb, genocide is literally inevitable, and playing the game is the only ticket out.

Actually that brings up a lot of interesting questions about responsibility and ethics, come to think of it.

(I freely admit that I've only read like half of Homestuck and it's possible that there's shit that I don't know that overwrites my understanding of things, let me know if that's the case)
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[personal profile] logicbutton 2013-02-21 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
That's not 100% correct - not to give anything away - but basically, yeah, trying to fight the game doesn't do much good. Your options are to perpetuate reality or not to perpetuate reality, and the latter has no impact on anyone except that particular iteration of you and your party. So you might as well just do what comes naturally at all times and hope your timeline is still the alpha.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-21 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
If nobody played the game, the genocide wouldn't have happened. Just because it's retroactive doesn't mean you weren't responsible.
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[personal profile] khym_chanur 2013-02-21 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
If nobody played the game then that'd become a doomed timeline. Of course, everyone would live a little bit longer, but they'd still be doomed.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-21 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
But you wouldn't be culpable.
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[personal profile] herongale 2013-02-21 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
No, I think it's more that it's destiny that the game will be played. Even one other person playing Sburb on a planet will initiate global apocalypse... so it actually kind of is best for as many different groups of people to play as possible, to maximize the chances of SOME people surviving and creating a new universe.

Playing the game isn't being responsible for the genocide... it's basically trying to live out the genocide already underway while saving as many of your friends as possible along the way.

Basically, per HS mythology, you might as well say that NOT playing the game is tantamount to committing suicide.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-21 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
It depends, I suppose. The Beta kids arent, no.

But Sollux is. And to a lesser extent Aradia. They brought the game into being in their universe. Predestined? Sure. But there's still blame.

Though I suppose I may have been undualy harsh. Playing the game doesn't make you a sociopath.

Just desiring to play does.
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[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2013-02-21 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Why does no one ever remember poor FedoraFreak? :( He's the best for realsies. He needs more love.
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[personal profile] deadtree 2013-02-21 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
oh. I was almost interested for a minute!
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-21 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
If you find homestuck interesting when the names not used, maybe it's time to admit homestuck just might be interesting.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'd play it too. Let's be sociopaths together.

But I'd probably die horribly before I could do anything awesome. :(

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. It's all predestination. Anyone playing the game has been destined to play the game their entire paradoxical life. Early evidence to the contrary, game play is not required to attract meteors. If you're not one of the destined players, fucking around with the game is just a way to while away the period before your inevitable death. If you are a destined player, you can't not play. Sorry.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Knowing what I know about the game, I would immediately distribute it to everyone I possibly could and get as many people into the game as possible as fast as possible.

Also, I would probably try to post-entry prototype my sprite with an old model of my OC/avatar. If it worked properly, I would get a sprite of my character which would be awesome. I could probably self-prototype my dreamself into it, and then if I went god-tier, I could become him.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
While all of the players (barring FedoraFreak, whom others have mentioned) have started the game while approximately in the 13-16 range, there's no real indication that that's necessary or even the norm in canon or from Hussie. Vriska theorizes it at one point, sure, but she's hardly the most reliable source.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I actually had a dream about being one of the selected for the SBurb beta even though I do not read Homestuck and am definitely not adolescent (though I might end up being my 'verse's FedoraFreak). I was extremely reluctant to play it because I knew just enough from getting hooked on troll romance fic to know that's really not a good thing, but then the world started ending anyway so obviously the other chosen few were already playing.

But I woke up before anything happened after that.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, as of the latest data we have on the game, playing doesn't inevitably lead to genocide - there are possible outcomes where the meteors never get sent through the portals, and a new universe is created without destroying the existing planet. The in-comic game sessions, with all the closed temporal loops, are very special cases.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-21 08:48 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, when the hell have we seen that? Alpha kids?

Yeah, no Meteors. But look what fucking happened. Meteores might have been preferable.

2 humans is still a pretty successful genocide.
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[personal profile] masu_trout 2013-02-21 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I honestly don't know. o_O Homestuck morality is weird. It's weird and nobody understands.

I mean, if you're one of the 'chosen' players, then automatically some future version of you must have played the game and triggered the meteors, because if not they wouldn't have been able to create a clone!you and you wouldn't even exist in the first place. So does the fact that you've already done it in the future mean it's morally acceptable to do it in the present? Do you even have a choice in the matter? Or would the proper action to take be not play the game, even though that could possibly paradox everything up and recursively wipe you from existence? (Is that what would happen? Or would you all just split into a doomed session?)

IDK, I think the most reasonable course of action would just be to play it and save as many people as you possibly could. If you didn't play it you'd be screwing with the past/future, and who knows how that would even end.
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[personal profile] corvigryph 2013-02-21 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Well we can be degenerative sociopaths together then.

I would prototype a beloved dead pet.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh, cataclysms that doom everyone except the players and all that fun stuff aside, it does seem like a very fun videogame to play!

who wouldn't want to play a for reals rpg with their friends and do the alchemizing thing and gain cool super powers? c:

that's why so many people still wish the kickstarter adventure game was sburb

it's like all the videogaming clichés rolled into one satire/parody thing package, and it rocks

(Anonymous) 2013-02-22 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yess, me too! Ssociopathss unite!