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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-20 06:47 pm

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Re: "It offends me when people say they'll pray for me" (redux)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
Repeating some of what I said on the last thread -

My problem is that quite often "I'll pray for you" doesn't just mean "You're in my thoughts" or "I'm concerned about you". It's offered as though it were some kind of a solution. Because the person doing the praying genuinely believes that special kinds of thoughts/words have magical powers.

It's awkward and uncomfortable to have to find a way to respond to that when you are equally genuine in your beliefs that the power of prayer is a ridiculous idea. So now I'm down about whatever it was that was the problem in the first place, and the difficulty of solving it has been trivialised to 'No need to worry about answers. God can sort it', and I'm trying to find a way to respond to what's just been said to me in a polite way.

If a person genuinely believes that prayer can help then they should just go ahead and pray, but telling somebody you'll pray for their problem to be magicked away - without knowing if they believe in that stuff too - is just rude.

Re: "It offends me when people say they'll pray for me" (redux)

(Anonymous) 2013-02-21 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
When someone says that they'll pray for you, that does not necessarily mean that they believe in the total efficacy of prayer, or that they think it's all solved and that God can sort it out. I'm sure there are some people out there for whom that's true, but it's not at all a universal thing. A belief in prayer does not necessarily mean that prayer functions without human effort, or that praying is in itself sufficient to address a problem.

And I think it's silly to say that it should really matter whether or not you believe in prayer. I mean, why does that matter to you? They believe something you don't, they said something that comes out of those beliefs and that worldview that was intended to show sympathy and concern and compassion (at least for people who are sincere and not being dicks). Why is that so rude? Why is that so bad? Why is the worldview and the belief system the really important part of this, and not the sympathy and concern and compassion? Even if you're someone who genuinely thinks it impossible that prayer can help, I don't see any reason why that makes it difficult to accept an offer of prayer in the spirit in which it was offered. I mean, deal with it.