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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-21 06:09 pm

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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-02-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Sooooo.... Your skills are killing people and being unflappable?

I'm not sure that's a particularly marketable skill-set, in civilian life...
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-02-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Also sleeping with woman and drinking.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-02-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
And the looking really good in a suit. You could make money doing that.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-02-22 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
The unflappability is actually really handy. :D

More what I meant was languages, interpersonal/intercultural analysis, communications, willingness to go places and do things other people don't want to.

It's a specific field I'm aiming for, so yeah not everything is applicable to all job markets. But the particular field has been having this cognitive war between cyber/tech vs. human skills.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-02-22 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Hopefully.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] visp 2013-02-22 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
If you don't mind joining the military, they're usually hiring for their own intel groups as well - which seems a bit more your alley.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-02-22 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
It's an option I've pursued/am pursuing; at the moment, I'm going at everything with an open mind.

My hope is to end up at one of the letterhead organizations, so right now I'm just throwing everything at the wall.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] visp 2013-02-22 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Good luck.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-02-22 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a lot of those same skills as OP, and military is definitely one of the things I'm looking at for once I graduate.

Most people I mention this to are dubious about it though, either because a.) they are anti military industrial complex (my parents, especially my father who practically grew up in military school - he'd probably cry if he heard I was even considering the military), or b.) they figure because I'm so tiny no military organization would ever take me (completely ignoring the fact that most of the positions I would apply for/fit into either don't take size into account or actually benefit from having someone of smaller stature involved).

But apparently unflappability is an extremely desired skill that's just hard to self-market without sounding like an idiot. :D
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Re: OP

[personal profile] visp 2013-02-22 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, so long as you can pass the basic fitness tests (which aren't really measured by size so much as bodyweight exercises like pushups and situps) then you shouldn't have a problem there. As to the unflappability skill, there's no test or degree that you can use to prove it, so you just have to join up and prove it, and then have promotions or word-of-mouth recommendations be the proof.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-02-22 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know. I took a good long look at all the requirements and stuff, and to be honest, I think provided I keep up my workout regimen for the next couple of years between now and my graduation, I'd probably pass their tests with flying colors. I was admittedly surprised when I realized this, but I really love that not only is the military an option for me, but it has a lot of options for me, a LOT more than I ever thought possible before I looked into it. My triple major pays of! :P

And I just mean that being hard to surprise isn't something you can put on a resume, but it is something a lot of people wish they could (or wish their potential employees could). Apparently my generation is the Drama Generation, so my level-headedness and unflappability, if they were marketable skills, could Get Me Places. At least according to the "hire-ers" I know. :)

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-02-22 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
A word of caution, much along the same lines as visp gave me below: be very careful about how much confidence you have in your unflappability.

It's great to have self confidence and assurance in your limits, but being overly assured, or assured without having had that tested, is bound to come back and bite you. It's one thing to be unflappable in the face of having a fight with your best friend, and entirely another when you're watching someone near you get hurt, and you have to do something about it.

Recruiters know it. They're extraordinary judges of character, at least the handful I've known, and they can read people very well. Some of them will ask you how resilient you are, others will just read it off of you.

So keep your positive attitude about what you can do, and those other more intangible qualities like unflappability, but be aware of your limitations, too.

(A side note about the physical stuff-- it depends very heavily on the branch you're looking into, and whether you're going officer or enlisted. Officers in general have a higher bar set for physical fitness for recruitment. And even the official standards set out tend to be way lower than the informal community-set standards. When I was applying for a commission in one of the branches, you had to near max out the physical portion to even get considered, somewhere around a 270 out of a 300.)

Otherwise, good luck! It sounds like you have a lot to offer, and I hope you do get some headway in this economy.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-02-22 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't intend to come across as arrogant or over-estimating myself, and I don't think I'm robo-levels of level-headedness (I'm not James Bond or Agent Coulson just yet). A lot of it is purely comparative: compared to the vast majority of people I've interacted with - or compared to the vast majority of people that other people, ones who've come to the same conclusion about me, have interacted with - I'm very difficult to upset or surprise. This actually includes a few of my vet and military friends, who were the ones to first suggest that I look into the military. And as I mentioned, it was a job recruiter who once joked that I could get a lot farther in life if I were able to legitimately put "like a rock" on my resume. (I think one of my neighbors may have thought I was a bit of a sociopath when I didn't seem to emotionally react to some strange guy with a bullet falling into my living room). That said, I'll be sure to try and keep the arrogance in check. I fully expect that there are a lot of people much better at this sort of thing than I am. In my comments I mostly just meant to imply that I can empathize with identifying with James Bond without trying to claim you are a superspy assassin. :)

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-02-22 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, nah it's cool, I hear you. Just a head's up, is all. One recruiter had this almost preternatural ability to perceive stress, which he called attention to and asked me about until he seemed satisfied with my answers.

I think what I was trying to say was that you have to be able to distinguish being able to handle everyday, crappy kind of stress from "ho shit I'm gonna die" kind of stress, and it's hard to know how you're going to handle it if you've never had the opportunity to be exposed to it before.

For example, I get easily stressed by everyday things, which is a limitation. But when bad shit goes down, I can function just fine, and do what needs to be done regardless of the danger, and I don't fall apart afterwards, which is a really good quality to have. But, I've only gained it through experience.

Although... guy with a bullet falling into your living room?
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-02-23 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, yeah, one of my old neighborhoods wasn't the best, and that was meant to be "bullet wound", not bullet. One day my dad screamed at me to come downstairs, where I see some guy who was shot bleeding out in our living room. He was shot nearby, broke into the apartment building in a panic, but he'd broken into an apartment that was empty at the time, so he ran out and started banging on doors to get help. My dad was the first one to answer.

I came downstairs to see my dad calling 911 while the guy was flat out on our living room floor, bleeding out. I just grabbed a bunch of towels and water and stuff and kept him stable, with the help of a neighbor, until the paramedics arrived. Possibly the most random night of my life (and that was before the power outage that happened the same night - it may have been connected to this). Afterwards, some paramedic (or police officer - given the number of uniforms running around, I wasn't sure) checked me to see if I was in shock because I seemed "too calm", but I turned out to be completely fine. She seemed impressed. The neighbor standing near by seemed creeped out.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] visp 2013-02-22 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, it's marketable, you just have to prove it in-context, as opposed to putting on the resume right after graduation.