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⌈ Secret Post #2242 ⌋

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Comments

Re: OP

[sugar_spun]

Well, let's see, first, a lot of people are brought up in hugely abusive households without actually becoming abusive themselves. I'm sure those people would be really offended if you told them 'oh, you must be a little abusive, just a bit!', because they were surrounded by it for so long.

Second, misogyny is the hatred of women. Not some people having biases with sexist overtones or subconsciously stereotyping women. Misogyny is not a synonym for sexism.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

OP

I see, thank you for clarifying. I don't really think that's comparable though. An abusive household is not the same as a sexist society that you can't compare with a healthy one, because it's still among the least sexist societies on earth, IMO.

I thought misogyny was also devaluation of women? Feeling that being a woman is a negative thing you need to overcome? I think that idea is pounded into girls' heads pretty hard. Forgive me if I'm misusing the term.

Re: OP

[sugar_spun]

But that's assuming society is unified and singular. That's like saying that because movies like Sucker Punch exist, movies are sexist. Society isn't sexist, aspects of some parts of it are. But since it's not, there is the "healthy" household to compare it to. So that's what I mean by an abusive household: a kid might be surrounded by abuse for all of their lives and still grow up non-abusive, if not actually healthy and happy in spite of it. They'll probably have to learn how to cope with the abuses, but they'll move past them.

Similarly, kids grow up with sexism in some part of basically everything, but there's still the good stuff out there to compare it to. They might have to learn to overcome any ideas about gender or sex they picked up along the way, but not everyone will end up damaged.

No, it's specifically the hatred of. So many people throw around the term that maybe some are believing it to have changed definition, but it's not so commonly used that way yet.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

OP

They might have to learn to overcome any ideas about gender or sex they picked up along the way

This is all I was referring to. I just think (almost) everyone winds up having to unlearn some things.

I didn't realize the definition of misogyny was that narrow. Most people use it in a much broader sense than that.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Mmm. I got your point and feel you were in the right. Your debater here is being nitpicky - and social justice-minded forums will use the term misogyny the way you did - and also, in my view, rather naive.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP

As much as we want to keep things clear it will not be able to stop language from changing. If people are starting to use a word in a border sense the meaning will most likely change to match.

Like how feminist for some people are kind of crazy ladies who burn bra's instead of a person who believe in equal right, equal opportunities and equal pay. I believe these things and I'm a feminist, but even if I'm not crazy and a bra burner that's what many people will assume if I tell them that I am a feminist.